Cheney Out? Gulianni In?

in the run-up to the (s)election -- there was some speculation that Cheney may be dropped from the ticket. In 2000 - Cheney did say he would only serve for 1 term, but he probably had his fingers crossed behind his back when he said that.

There was some talking-head speculation about whether or not Cheney would be on the ticket or not --- those promoting Cheney to stay on the ticket cited that many Reich-wingers felt bush* was "too liberal" and would only vote for bush* if Cheney were the VP

As we know -- Cheney stayed.

bush* has now declared a mandate -- a weak one, but a bit stronger than the mandate he declared in 2000. Depending on how "My-Partisan" he becomes will probably determine how much actually gets done. Many moderate-republicans have been threatened, bullied or shut-out of the republican agenda process because they 'disagree'. If they and the Dems grow a spine -- this could prove trouble for bush* to shove his "mandate" up our butts.

One talking head mentioned the 12 years of the Reagan-bush* years -- and how the Reagan mantle was passed down to Poppy-bush. That an attempt to pass down the bush* mantle to Cheney is not outside the realm of possibility.

But Cheney has some problems --- HALLIBURTON for one. How big of a problem will depend on if spines are grown in congress or other "evidence" appears which forces spines to be grown.

Let's assume that spines are grown -- will it lead to impeachment of Cheney? Probably not, most likely he will be allowed to resign for health reasons. So who will bush* appoint to assume the mantle in 2008?

The only one that comes my mind is Gulianni -- what better way to hedge chances than be serving a couple of years as a VP? He's already proved he can kiss butts and lick boots with the best of them. Currently when Cheney speaks - bush* lipsynchs -- could bush* lipsynch when Gulianni speaks?

because Gulianni (IMHO) is more of a weak willed weenie than the bushter is. I can just picture them stumbling around the White House all day, tripping over each other and saying "duh, I don't know, what do you think".

Thanks for the mental picture. I say let 'em have each other.

wooooo, imagine rove trying to keep G's ego in a box! Fireworks!

Even New Yorkers had a problem with the way his wife found out about the divorce. He announced it on television, and she found out the same time we did.

Rove isn't going to risk blowing their pact with the fundies over that one.

all of his past indiscretions are swept under God's rug and he's OK as far as the Christianazis are concerned. Hey, it worked for whistle ass. I think Giuliani's Catholic though, that might present a problem with the whole "born again" thing.

so I agree with you. Fundies don't think. They BELIEVE what they are told. IF bushit says Guiliani is a good CHRISTIAN and repents for all this sins they will accept it. SHIT, that is HOW Bushit 43- SOLD Bushit-41 TO THE RR. Did you KNOW that Bushit-41 was PRO CHOICE before RR drafted him?
Guiliani will do the same thing and change his position on ROE and all will be well. The Countries MAYOR! OMG we have no candidate that can beat him.He has been a lapdog for Bushit & CO during the election for a reason. He is the Heir apparent

Not sure, but I think Giuliani may be pro-Abortion, too. Even if he's not, he's actually fairly liberal socially for a Republican, but then he is more along the lines of the old Rockefeller Classic Conservative Republican.

Either way, he's got little chance of being VP or President after Dubya. The Fundies will demand another "born again" like him.

Giuliani still has pretty high approval ratings around the country & his crack about blaming the troops did not get a ton of airplay. He would win over a lot of moderates & Rove would take the chance that they'd get more moderates with Rudy than they'd lose in fundies.

Guilianni would be a easy mark for an undercover DU intern.

I doubt any self respecting DU'er, would take something like that....even for the team though...

His last one was in 2000. He's about due for another.

Doctors have a term for a man who has had six heart attacks: Dead. Or damn well close to it. Cheney is on borrowed time.

His replacement is going to either be someone with no ambition for the Presidency, or someone whom Rove can control in four years. Cheney was perfect as he had no ambition beyond being the real power behind the throne, and Rove.

I simply can't see McCain or Giuliani playing such a key role in this administration. They're both moderates and outsiders to the Bush Family Evil Empire.

I'd bet money on it being Condi Rice.

neither would McCain and both have been kissing bushie's butt.

What about a heart transplant for Cheney? That sucker doesn't want to die. Of course he is 600 years old and this could be merely an act.

a young up and coming Nazi that shares the "family values" of the Slugs.

He carries so much baggage, it's a joke. I don't think the Bushies will touch him. They used "America's Mayor" to help them win the election, but there is no way they'll ever give him the VP. He is just too vulnerable; even evil Karl will have trouble spinning him into a viable candidate for 2008.

thing.

Cheyney will get rid of *. Now that they have kept the power, they don't need the little idiot anymore. * is of little significance to Cheyney and his gang of neo's. This is where the last laugh will be on the fundies. Do you really think Cheyney is going to bow to anything they have to say. The fundies where just the pawns in his game and they fell for it.

I know that the "moral/family" values crap trumped logic and facts -- but after 4 more years of bush*'s "MI-Partisan" divisivness, job losses and more wars -- the family value people may find it hard to feed and support a family just on "values"

it's fine to be on the top of the pile of values when you are warm, safe and well-fed

the "theme" will be "uniting the country" -- Guilliani has a broader appeal and would bring more fence-sitters to his side. Divorce and all of that will be pish-poshed -- after all wasn't Kerry divorced and had remarried?

Guilliani will also be painted as a more moderate voice -- not like those radical liberal whiners. His actions on 9-11 will be touted that he can handle a crisis -- unlike bush* that sat there with his fingers up his butt waiting for some direction

I don't think the repugs could go with another reich-winger

but then again -- there's always rigging another (S)election -- that seemed to work twice already