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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:13 PM
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This is proof of how they rigged this election PAY ATTENTION
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-13.pdf


Volusia County, Florida:
John Ellis, hired as an analyst for Fox TV News, knew exactly
the margin needed to call the 2000 presidential race for George W.
Bush. He was privy to the Voter News Service data, and he spoke
several times during the evening to his two cousins: Jeb and George
W. Bush.
At 2:09 a.m., the required vote margin appeared from Volusia
County, Florida. At 2:10 a.m., this margin was enhanced by a 4,000-
vote bump in Brevard County, and at 2:16 a.m., Ellis called the race
for George W. Bush. Within four minutes, NBC, CBS and ABC
followed suit. 5
Precisely the right margin appeared on a Volusia County machine
(Global Election Systems, now Diebold), amplified by a Diebold/
Global Election Systems machine in Brevard County. Unfortunately,
these vote totals were incorrect and soon disappeared, along with a
“card no. 3” which helped to create them.
If Al Gore had publicly conceded on election night, would we ever
have learned that these votes were bogus? Would there have been a
recount, and could the “Help America Vote Act” have passed, triggering
the rush to touch-screen machines?
We’ll never know, but thanks to an internal CBS report and a memo
written by Talbot Iredale, vice president of research and development
at Diebold Election Systems, we now know that the unexplained
replacement of a set of votes on a Diebold optical-scan machine in Volusia
County triggered a premature private concession from Al Gore to George
W. Bush and resulted in TV networks’ erroneously calling the election
for Bush instead of deeming it too close to call. The final “offical”
tally showed Gore losing by 527 votes, though the hand recount stopped
by the Supreme Court later gave the election to Gore.
Fox News Network, 29 November 2000: Brit Hume, host: “ ... It seems a
broken computer modem and a faulty memory card were culprits in the
erroneous election-night call of George W. Bush as the Florida winner ...
computers with a bad memory card caused it to appear for a time that Al
Gore had lost more than 16,000 votes, which seemed to put George W.
Bush up by 50,000 — at that stage in the night, an insurmountable margin.
Every network saw that as a basis for calling the state for Mr. Bush. ... ”
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http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Landes_Projections.htm

Voter News Service (VNS)

The news networks don't just report election news, they create it. But do they also conspire to control election results?



Voter News Service (VNS) is a top-secret private consortium owned by ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News. It's current headquarters is in Brooklyn, New York. It's been around (under different names) since 1964. It's the only company whose exit poll results are used by the news media to announce the "projected" winners in races for the president, U.S. House and Senate, state governors, and select races.



By 1964, computers were used to predict election outcomes, as well as to count votes on "punch cards." With the use of computerized vote counters and the news networks exclusive control over polling data in major elections, the gates to election fraud were wide open. Computerized voting machines have now made election fraud as easy as stealing candy from a baby.



So how could VNS help rig an election? VNS could conspire with corrupt government officials and crooked voting machine companies (whose reputation for fraud and "error" grows with every election) to come up with projections that closely mirror the expected election results. Then all that's needed is some 'tweaking' in targeted precincts where voting data can be manipulated, voting machines rigged ....and elections swung. VNS follows through with its de facto certification of election results that have already been fixed. If someone suspects vote rigging, there's always VNS to say that the results match their projections.



And with no oversight, who's to know?
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"We know that in ONE PRECINCT in suburban Columbus, the voting machines were wrong by almost 4,000 votes.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems&printer=1

"We know that in Broward County, Florida, the same type of machine had similar errors and was off by 70,000 votes.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10103931.htm?1c

"We know that in Jacksonville, North Carolina, a computer glitch lost 4,500 votes.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=10&u=/ap/20041104/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems

"We know that in Michigan City, Indiana, a computer glitch caused a 57,000 vote error -

"We know that in Craven County, NC, Bush received credit for 11,283 more votes than were actually cast in that county

http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=18297&Section=Local

"That's a combined error of roughly 150,000 votes that have been confirmed by the mainstream news media thus far.

These are machines that have no paper trail. Is this acceptable to you?"

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/48089077.html
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Stock symbol of Diebold - DBD and history

Stock history of selling shares in the below link. Check out the numbers and the dates.

http://www.smartmoney.com/eqsnaps/index.cfm?story=insiders&symbol=DBD

This is just the TIP of the iceberg! We need to investigate... who are these people? What are their ties?

Date Insider Relationship Transaction Type Number
of Shares Price Market Value
7/30/2004 LAUER JOHN N Director X 4,875 35.17 $171,466
7/29/2004 LASSITER PHILLIP B Director X 3,000 29.91 $89,730
6/30/2004 SHIPLEY GEORGE O Divisional Officer IS 2,995 NA $152,745
4/22/2004 ROSNER BRUCE Unknown IS 11,593 NA $580,229
3/16/2004 BOCKIUS LOUIS V III Director X 3,500 24.63 $86,188
3/05/2004 BOCKIUS LOUIS V III Director G 1,000 0.00 $0
2/23/2004 SHIPLEY GEORGE O Divisional Officer IS 2,800 NA $148,000
2/11/2004 FITZGERALD GALE S Director X 3,500 27.31 $95,596
2/11/2004 BUCCI DAVID Officer A 13,200 53.00 $699,600
2/11/2004 BUCCI DAVID Officer G 7,524 0.00 $0
2/11/2004 SWIDARSKI THOMAS W Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860

2/11/2004 O BRIEN DANIEL J Officer A 5,000 0.00 $0
2/11/2004 DETTINGER WARREN W General Counsel A 6,600 53.00 $349,800
2/11/2004 CHEN JAMES L M Officer A 6,600 53.00 $349,800
2/11/2004 INGRAM LARRY D Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 MORIARTY DENNIS M Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 RUSCIANO ANTHONY J Officer A 4,620 53.00 $244,860
2/11/2004 FRANCIS VOGELSANG CHAREE Officer A 3,960 53.00 $209,880
2/11/2004 KRAKORA KEVIN J Officer A 2,156 53.00 $114,268
2/10/2004 HICE FAMILY REVOCABLE LIVING TRUST Unknown IS 57,964 NA $3,094,700
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Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer

COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:RRDwWqO38JoJ:contracts.onecle.com/diebold/bankone.loan1.2000.11.01.shtml+President+of+Diebold+corporation&hl=en

Two members, possibly more who are on the Republican National Committee and new board
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Bank ONE CEO's are part of Diebold. The same who committed fraud in ATM

they were ordered to remove their machines, but instead installed many all along the Ohio democratic counties and other counties in additional states......

I wonder why....here's more reports

www.morgenthaler.com/content/Buyouts/Portfolio%20News/CompelCEOFinal.pdf

Full report proves BANK ONE, BANK OF AMERICA creators are on the CEO directors board for Diebold corporation, who easily committed fraud the same way ATM's count their numbers up and down.
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml#part1

The story you are about to read is in this writer's view the biggest political scandal in American history, if not global history. And it is being broken today here in New Zealand.
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E-Voting Machines has a Halliburton/Cheney connection.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/April2004/Landes0406.htm

Former President, Chief Operating Officer, and Vice Chairman of SAIC is Admiral Bill Owens, who is now Chairman of the Board for VoteHere. Owens also served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was a senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Carlucci's company is Carlyle Group, while Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer is Halliburton.
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The same Blackwell that tried to illegally stop Ohio people from voting because of the 80lb paper. This is also the same Blackwell that had approved of punch card CALLED HANGING CHADS.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Fitrakis0226.htm

If Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell has his way, Diebold will receive a contract to supply touch screen electronic voting machines for much of the state. None of these Diebold machines will provide a paper receipt of the vote.

Diebold, located in North Canton, Ohio, does its primary business in ATM and ticket-vending machines. Critics of Diebold point out that virtually every other machine the company makes provides a paper trail to verify the machine’s calculations. Oddly, only the voting machines lack this essential function.
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AMY GOODMAN on republican party connections

AMY GOODMAN: Bev Harris, what about the company Diebold? Can you talk about who they are, their connections to those in power, to the Republican Party?

BEV HARRIS: First of all you need to understand that the voting division of Diebold is a subsidiary. It used to go under the name of Global Elections Systems, out of Mckinney Texas, actually they were out of Canada but they called themselves out of Mckinney, Texas. Debold, what they did was they bought this small company in Texas and kind of, they didn't really merge it in particularly they just let it continue to run in Mckinney,Texas with all its same people, its same software and so forth. But the Diebold company itself is interesting, it does have very strong Republican ties, specifically to the Bush administration. They have a C.E.O. named Wally Odell He is a close crony of Dick Cheney, in fact just recently in July he had Cheney come to his house and he held a fundraiser for Cheney that raised $500,000. They have a board of directors member who is one of the Bush Pioneers. That is a small and elite group that gives huge amounts of money to the presidential campaign. This fellow's name is W.H. Timcan. You may remember that Bush had a trip to Ohio. In this trip indeed who he went to visit was Timkin and toured around in Timkin’s company, of course Timkin is also one of the directors of Diebold. And it just seems – the other thing that we noticed, we put together a spread sheet of the contributions that were made by Diebold and Diebold employees. And they have a really unusual pattern of contributions which ends up funneling literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to a few Republican candidates. Very little to any other party.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/13/1535236
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:17 PM
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1. the media will only give court cases attention now - if that....:-(
feels like HUAAC in the 50's
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:13 PM
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6. kicking again
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:22 PM
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9. kick
:-)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:12 AM
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13. kick
:-)
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:29 PM
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2. PLEASE AT LEAST KEEP IT BUMPED
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:24 PM
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3. fine I'll keep bumping it up
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:28 PM
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4. Okay
:kick:
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:04 PM
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5. keep this kicked
:kick:
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:20 PM
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7. you ready to listen now ?
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:01 PM
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8. why isn't anyone else kicking this fucking thread?
:kick:

Listen, folks, if we don't deal with BBV and the media, we might as well just spread our ass cheeks and enjoy it.

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:34 PM
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23. I've been listening since 2000
Am past ready for somebody to grab this in the national media and run with it. Are they all cowards?

:kick: :kick:
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:25 PM
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10. Kick
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Ladybast Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:42 PM
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11. Kick
and maybe you could ask the moderators to pin it to the top for a while.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:48 PM
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12. any more word on Nadar in NH n/t
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:59 AM
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14. kicking and another article:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:02 PM
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15. Hell, yeah! Another kick! (n/t)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:04 PM
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16. Kick
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:04 PM by merh
You have to realize - most everyone believes there was fraud and these repeat threads on it are informational, but they don't mean anyone (DNC or K/E) is doing anything about it.

If you post that something is being done, then you will have an active thread.

:kick:
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ethereal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:05 PM
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17. kick
well, then, let's make it active.

get your lttes going, people.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:31 PM
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18. Naming names and inking the fraud, I like it, and thanks for the info
Is anyone planning on doing a pamphlet or some type of quick printing information for people who are not computer and or politically savvy.

I kind of kept my self in that control group playing the election will go off like it's supposed to, reasoning it probably wouldn't but hoping it would. Using conventional standards against rational logic never works. We Knew they would pull this type of thing, but now we have hard evidence. This is great in many ways, we no longer will be watching the shadows on the walls, they think they can do in front of everybody's eyes. They are doing it weak and desperate with an air of entitlement and hubris, most great tragic history lessons are.

I am going to be waiting for the tread that's has to be coming. It goes like this,"They stole the election and in a process of covering it up, who now believes these same people were not in on what happened around 9/11 and it's aftermath".

Be careful when looking for truth, you might actually find it, and it may not be as pretty as you would have liked.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:38 PM
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19. kick for truth
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 06:40 PM
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20. My only Mea Culpa is the idea after Kerry won the mantle he would..
accept it. Though we know he won and did a fair job at it who would have known he these other things would taken place. We all made that Kerry happen, so it's all our fault. We should have checked his resume better. I am not worried about that anymore really though, I am worried people broke many laws which now means convictible criminals are now accepted by the masses as the people in charge. These people who stole the vote know no impunity to law and why them laws are in place.

Reality will set in later for many
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 06:46 PM
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21. A well deserved KICK
Best Demockracy Money Can Buy.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:00 PM
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22. Check out this link for dbd insider trading
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 07:06 PM by MagickMuffin
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:01 PM
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24. kicking in the name of Bill Clinton, who...
is suffering from post tramatic anesthesia disorder...translated as:

"I lost my balls while under anesthesia."
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