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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:08 PM
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Can we form a 527 on our own?
Anyone know the criteria for forming a 527? Is it a matter of getting a charter together and raising money? Are there any specific requirements that we would need to do? Is anyone interested in forming a group on our own?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:08 PM
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1. Why? Anything wrong with MoveonPac?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:19 PM
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2. Nothing's wrong with MoveOn
I just think we need as much organization as possible, and to fight from a whole different point of view as well. Sort of like PACs in general--the more we have, the more we have to fight with.

527s are run on different issues. Repukes had one to counter Kerry on his war experience, they had one to bring up 9/11, and there were others facing different agenda. I would like to see ones created for other reasons--one to talk about women's issues on a personal level (Planned Parenthood can't form a 527 from its main base because it's a PAC as far as I know), one to fight back on health care, etc. The more and diverse issues we can counter on, the more exposure we can get, and I don't mean 3+ years down the line, I mean for right now--a continuous fight from the beginning.

This election brought us one more proof that half of this country is completely ignorant and is completely intolerant of true and real change. Whether we can fight the ignorance and intolerance, I don't know for sure, but it is good to at least try.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:39 PM
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4. Two of us from DU are now working on proposing 527's
We are going to try to start our own organization and hit a specific area - Christian and spiritual Voters. The other guy I am working with has some connections in Washington. Please feel free to contact me and get on board. Let me know what your idea is? I think the more regular citizens doing 527's the better. Contact me at Quixote1818@aol.com
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:20 PM
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5. Thanks
I've sent you an email. :)
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:31 PM
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10. I think that's an excellent idea
Nothing pisses me off more than Republicans thinking they own an exclusive franchise on Jesus.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:44 PM
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11. Your skills will come in quite nicely as well eom
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:48 PM
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13. I'll open the Alabama office
LOL
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:52 PM
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15. Good idea!
It came closer to blue this time around!! :)
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:56 PM
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16. Actually
Bush won by 24 points this time. Arghhhhh. Bush got 80 percent of the white vote. Lot of work to be done.

Of course, Bush also increased his percentage of the vote in places like Connecticut and New York, too. But it was a wipeout here.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:20 PM
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17. Sorry to hear that
This hit all of us pretty hard.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:50 PM
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18. And the worst part was the defeat of Amendment 2
The Christian Coalition engineered that. They'll all burn in hell.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:32 PM
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20. Do you remember when Falwell
started the so-called "Moral Majority" so long ago? I recall the bumperstickers some of us had--"The Moral Majority is Neither." I think we need to print some more up.

I think that the hijacking of religion is one of the most horrendous things to happen in the past twenty or thirty years. I think that the propaganda the right wingnuts puts out is making it look like all religious people in our country are whacked out fundamentalists and evangelicals.

I know people like you, Doug, really DO represent the mainstream in this country, but for some reason, the fundies think they've got license to twist and distort the truth, to make it look like what they want is the only way. I sometimes think my frustration makes it look like I hate all people who have a strong set of beliefs, but it's not true. I just hate people who say a lot of words, but don't back it up with actions and deeds. And those who seem to justify violence or abuse with some line from the bible.

I think that if we change the way that the majority sees religion, and what our founding fathers really wanted to happen in respect to religion and government, then we might be able to fight that particular component of the reich wing.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:33 PM
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24. We will never win a religious war with the right
The right has won by linking religion and politics more closely than at any time since the clerics were runing the Massachusetts Bay Colony.

It is doubtful that that link can be severed any time in the near future. What we must do is attempt to neutralize the religious right's issues.

That's what Clinton was getting at when he told Kerry to come out against gay marriage. Clinton was a master at co-opting and neutralizing the opposition's issues. That's why, in the end, the only way the right could get any traction against him was to trump up a bunch of phony scandals.


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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:32 PM
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3. We're doing it right now for the recounts.
I just got off the phone with the BBV lawyer and he's setting up a 527 specifically for funding the recounts we're about to set off. We have candidates willing to file in every state (Nader, Badnarik and Cobb), we have the number crunching, we have the FOIA requests in. The goal is to announce the fund through AAR and the blogs tomorrow. Cross your fingers that we can make this happen fast enough.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:22 PM
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6. Excellent
As I just mentioned in an email to Quixote, if you need help in the form of time, let me know. I don't have any money, but I can help out in as many other ways as I can. Web design, writing, proofreading, copyediting, etc. Be happy to help. It will keep me from being too depressed about how matters now stand.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:23 PM
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7. By we, do you mean like
"The Democratic Underground 527?"

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:25 PM
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8. my understanding re: 527's is that they have to be non-partisan.
wouldn't be too good to have a name like Democratic Underground...although...if it was just called DU , everybody would know


like Du bist der shein or sometheing...what does that mean anyway...
name of old song.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:47 PM
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12. Yeah, llike they said
we're "supposed" to be non-partisan. Heh. Tell that to the idiots in the Swift Boat ads.

I don't think we'd be able to call it after DU, but perhaps like with these other small groups, we can all get on board as many of these as we can, either with financial help or with time and work. I can't do much monetarily, but I am more than glad to help in as many other ways as I can.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:29 PM
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9. A PAC is allowed to give money to candidates, and so
you should look into the differences between a PAC and a 527 and decide which you prefer.

MoveOn is now three organizations.

"MoveOn.org" is a 501.

"The MoveOn Voter Fund" is a 527.

"MoveOn PAC" is a PAC.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:52 PM
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14. I think working outside the DNC
is the way to go for some of us (as a 527). It would make whatever work we do be associated not with the party, but done as concerned citizens for the welfare of the people in this country too ignorant to have voted for change. Too many people refused to learn about so many aspects of the candidates, and could only judge by what they saw in the mainstream media. And I'll bet most people didn't even watch the debates--too boring compared to Survivor or The Apprentice.</sarcastic> I definitely think many people are too blissfully ignorant to be trusted with the continuing fate of our country, and we need to be able to step up to the plate and show them the truth, in as many different ways and forms as possible.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:52 PM
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19. My only question is....
Do you think the Shrub will try to get rid of the 527's since this does not serve them anymore?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:34 PM
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21. He would likely still need to get the cooperation
of both houses of congress, and I don't think either side will allow that right now. They benefitted from the 527 as well, so I don't think they're ready to give up all that soft money just yet.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:44 PM
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22. With a Republican victory, they're in no hurry to change the system (nt)
nt
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AlexHamilton Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:52 PM
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23. Interested in 527
I am currently the administrator of the website Impeachment by the People. We are definitely interested in forming a PAC or 527. If anyone wants our help please do not hesitate to contact me.

Alex Hamilton
Impeachment by the People
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:40 PM
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25. there are some already out there...see if they match what your cause is
if not look into creating your own.
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