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Delarage Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:55 PM
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I didn't go to church on Sunday
because I just knew some asshole was going to say "and thank you for having fair elections. Allow us to unite as one behind our President and blah...blah...blah..." I knew that my heart would race and I'd think un-church-like thoughts in church so I skipped it. And I live in a blue state (thank God, because I might've killed someone by now).
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:56 PM
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1. I actually went for the first time in a while
Wasn't partisan at all and I live in a red state.
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Delarage Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:00 AM
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2. You're brave.
I'm going this week, but I will be taking names of any espousers of right-wing crap. Not that I have any power to do anything to anyone, but just in case.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:01 AM
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3. I don't go to church ...
But my family's church is anti-Bush lol .
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:02 AM
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4. I church in my heart because
I'm so tired of them ramrodding their hateful attitudes and opinions on me. I'm very much a believer in Christ & choose to pray in peace. A time will come when I am comfortable going back.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:23 AM
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8. Amen thats exactly how I feel ... exactly the same .
I believe in many things and I believe that everyone has the right to believe in what they want , as long its something positive and helps your sanity . I got tired of the limitations that they placed on me , the money that they always wanted from me , the HYPOCRISY - so when I turned 18 I decided that I just wanted to believe in God , not another man and since then I have been sane :)
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:50 PM
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10. well good for you! God bless us... ya know? it ain't easy but
Jesus will be there for us in the end waiting! :)
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:11 AM
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5. My Mother got up in church and asked them...
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 12:12 AM by demodonkey
to pray for our wonderful progressive Dem state senator Allen Kukovich who was (quote) "defeated in the most un-Christlike political campaign I have ever seen in my 80 some years."

Nobody DARED say anything! (And a lot of people have thanked her since.)

www.PAvotersfortruth.com
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:14 AM
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6. God Bless your mother....
and give her a :hug: for me!
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Liberal Christian Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:19 AM
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7. I preached on Sunday
I had to cover a few different topics, but here's what I said in part:

We hear a lot these days about the end times, mostly because of the whole Left Behind series of books. But Jesus wasn’t talking about pie-in-the-sky-bye-and-bye times and realities. He was talking about the present reality, about living as agents of justice, of grace, of peace and, always, of love.

This week our nation went to the polls and chose between two presidential candidates with very different world views. By a very narrow margin, one of those candidates and his world view were chosen to govern this country for the next four years. Some people are happy about that. Others are not. Some are confident that this choice will bring peace, prosperity, and safety. Others despair that we are moving in a disastrous direction. The need for healing is great, and I’m not sure we know yet how it’s going to happen. There is a sense on every side that “I’m right and you’re wrong.” We can’t all be right, everybody else can’t always be wrong, but the rhetoric is there.

Perhaps the prophet Haggai has a word for us. In his time, the people of Israel were just returning from exile in Persia. They were dispirited, uncertain of what live would look like for them in a land that most of them knew only from story and tradition. There was no temple, no center of worship and identity. It had been destroyed. Haggai speaks of the rebuilding of the temple, of the reclaiming of the center of their communal life. He speaks of resurrection in his own way, pointing to a new reality, a new hope. His word to the people is a word for us to hear today: “Take courage . . . for I am with you . . . according to the promise that I made you when I brought you out of Egypt. My spirit abides with you; do not fear.”

There are days when I think I need to have those words emblazoned on the walls of my office, stamped on the dashboard of my car, crawling across my computer screen as a screen saver – “Take courage!”

Take courage. We are in a time of great change. Our churches are changing, our communities are changing, sometimes it seems as though the very truth by which we guide our lives is changing. The wonder of it all is that through the change, we continue to hear the voice of a still-speaking God, reminding us he is with us according to the promise that he made so long ago when he brought us out of Egypt.


It was what I needed to in a church that had plenty of people who had voted on each side. We must find a way to overcome polarization, even if it's one small community at a time.

Jeanny
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:30 AM
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9. I went on Sunday
and it was as much a political meeting as a religious one. People commented on my picture in the paper, and said how sorry they were that Kerry hadn't won.

A woman with two kids was so angry because she has relatives in Ohio who say they agree that the election was stolen. Her son, only 9, discussed how he thought people had been lazy and hadn't looked properly at Kerry, or they'd have picked the right man. Always was a bright little boy, but he surprised me Sunday. But then he gets his politics from mom.

Only a couple of people I've found voted for Bush. The rest were Kerry people. One elderly man has a son who's a Marine, and was pretty steamed at the lies about a fellow veteran. His wife said she felt like democracy was in the balance this election.

A lawyer feared for the middle class, and doesn't appreciate that Bush and Co. are at war with his profession.

I'm very proud of my church. We are right in the middle of Freeperland, and yet we are overwhelmingly Democrat. I assume we are typical for the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I knew there was a reason I belonged to that denomination. :)
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:53 PM
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11. Not Christian
And my High Priestess was really out of it for the last few days because of the results of the election, so no issue there.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:54 PM
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12. I hear that Bushco is considering making that a felony. n/t
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