this train of thought is why my spouse and I had our first fight

over this election yesterday ...

here's a clip of what he says is going on...this is opinion ...as far as I know but wtf???

"The corruption in 2004 was so blatant and could be seen by the way the election ended. Here was Kerry conceding the election BEFORE all the votes were counted in Ohio.The election "looked" very close, but the Kerry team never called for any recounts in any State. Kerry and his campaign team either had to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know that the electronic voting machines were NOT secure and trustworthy and left no paper trail of individual votes, and that the votes could not be properly audited. Votes could be changed with the click of a mouse. The four companies that made the electronic voting machines just happened to be linked to the Republican party. One executive of one of the voting machine companies made a statement committing himself to deliver votes to Bush. Yet Kerry and the Democrats never went to court BEFORE the election to challenge this potential criminal fraud from happening. "

more...

http://www.rense.com/general59/WIN.HTM

In America, "Conspiracy Theory" is now shorthand for
"Unspeakble Truth". -Gore Vidal

Voting in the USA: A Tale of Two Brothers


Once upon a time there were two brothers: Bob and Todd Urosevich. In the 1980's, with the financial backing of the right-wing extremist Christian billionaire Howard Ahmanson, Bob and Todd founded a company called American Information Systems (AIS) that built voting machines. They were also certified to count votes. It is interesting to note that back then there was no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. Even more interesting is the fact that this is still true today. Not even the Federal Election Commission (FEC) has a complete list of all the companies that count votes in U.S. elections.


Voting Fraud in the USA
Did you know....

80% of all votes in America are counted by o­nly two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based o­n votes counted by ES&S machines.

Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

Diebold is based in Ohio and supplies almost all the voting machines there.

None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

30% of all U.S. votes are carried out o­n unverifiable touch screen voting machines.

Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems.

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel owns 35% of ES&S and was caught lying about it

ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

Exit polls for the 2004 elections were accurate within 1% or less in areas where ballot machines were used.

Major exit poll data discrepancies were noted in counties where touch screen machines were used, especially in Ohio and Florida.


Need details?

http://memes.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=...

the question we are wrestling with is "why"?

that she was aware of BBV and that the Dems were doing "something" about it.

Her letter talked the talk -- but the dems did not walk the walk. They should have been prepared for electronic vote tampering.

Somehow the dem leadership just doesn't seem to comprehend what has happened -- and that it will get a whole lot worse unless the e-voting machines aren't tossed out.