Atrios & Dailykos- Wingnut "modestly proposes" expulsion of Blue States.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=5652
Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal
It's Time to Reconfigure the United States
by Mike Thompson
Posted Nov 3, 2004

"That is why the unthinkable must become thinkable. If the so-called "Red States" (those that voted for George W. Bush) cannot be respected or at least tolerated by the "Blue States" (those that voted for Al Gore and John Kerry), then the most disparate of them must live apart--not by secession of the former (a majority), but by expulsion of the latter. Here is how to do it.

Having been amended only 17 times since 10 vital amendments (the Bill of Rights) were added at the republic's inception, the U.S. Constitution is not easily changed, primarily because so many states (75%, now 38 of 50) must agree. Yet, there are 38 states today that may be inclined to adopt, let us call it, a "Declaration of Expulsion," that is, a specific constitutional amendment to kick out the systemically troublesome states and those trending rapidly toward anti-American, if not outright subversive, behavior.

The 12 states that must go: California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Maryland, and Delaware. Only the remaining 38 states would retain the name, "United States of America." The 12 expelled mobs could call themselves the "Dirty Dozen," or individually keep their identity and go their separate ways, probably straight to Hell."

Mr. Thompson? Please view this map.



The Blue states are those whose tax revenue to the Federal government exceed the Federal funds poured back into the state. In other words, they pay more than they get back.

The Red states are those who take more in Federal funding than they put back in. In other words, these are DEADBEAT states living off the government teat.

The big fucking hole in your logic, Mr. Thompson, is that by expelling the "Dirty Dozen," you will eviscerate the tax base of what's left of your neoconservative utopia. 11 of the 12 states you propose to throw away are supporting most of the 38 states you hold dear to your heart.

-MR

Let the coasts be free of the middle of the country!

New York and California would be great countries!

can GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!

I don't want to live in JesusLand. So yes send us away.

Why are they not included in the 12?

No fair.

One would think that Washington and Oregon would be just as decadent and sin-ridden as Rhode Island. I don't know why they escaped his axe.

Same thing goes for other reliably Democratic states in the northern Midwest: Minnesota & Michigan. And how about Pennsylvania? Why are they welcome?

-MR

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I'm sure they would rather come with us. (I'm from NJ):toast:

I'd prefer this organization of the continent...

http://www.brendoman.com/i%20am%20filled%20with%20the%20love%20of%20Christ!!!.jpg

I am homesick, damnit, and best of all, Home is the Land of BLUE!!!!

west virginia is a beautiful state (your profile says huntingdon) -- i'm a sucker for appalachia!

cheers!

all these years.

It was quoted in the Bible that there would be those who would use him as a "false profit"..guess who?

But that map looks good..."The United States of Canada".

I wonder what Canada would have to say about this?


EDIT~I just saw my freudian slip here with "false profit"..I meant to say prophet..but they both will do.

think of all the economic benefit Canada would gain. The states can turn into Provinces. Yes. I could go for that. Please, Canada?

We get rid of the reich wingers and they get rid of anybody with compassion and/or an IQ over 100.

Where would we put all of our Red state refugees?
And would there be enough farmland to feed everyone?

-MR

And those people in Jesusland have to eat, so they'll sell to us--at a good price too! If not, we'll do what we have been doing forever and a day--buying from Mexico and South America. While we are at it, we can resume relations with Cuba, buy our sugar and tropical fruits from them, and cut all of the US sugar producers' nuts right off--the price supports on that commodity are absurd.

Jesusland would last five minutes without the economic support from the FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD--the People's Republic of California. To say nothing of the world's financial center, New York City. And anyone wanting a decent education would have to venture into Blue Nation for an Ivy League degree...that creationism shit you get at Bob Jones U isn't going to make you a better businessman, doctor, or lawyer.

I say let them go--they drag us down. America is no longer beautiful with those hatemongers, anyway.

Don't leave us behind!!!

I mean, we have every right to be free of Bushland as California does. At least we don't have a cyborg as governor.

Fellow citizens of Washington and Oregon, make your voices heard. Demand to be expelled as well! Let's all e-mail that poster, including interesting photos of the Seattle or Portland Gay Pride Parades, or the Fremont Solstice Celebration. We can be just as decadent and anti-moral-values as those twelve states, damn it!!!

:evilgrin:

Buh-bye Jesusland! Hello Greater Canada!

BRING IT ON.

Please do, please do expell us, we want out of the asylum anyway... make it easy on us, please do.

Then we will watchy you go down to Third and Fourth World Status and will have wet backs coming across the borders to take teh jobs we don't want

BRING IT ON

Please let us go, please please please??????

baby!

On the other hand, the various US territories might want to join/affiliate with the New Canadian Confederation (States and Provinces) (at least, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands).

decide which block they want to join with.

Perhaps we can establish a reservation for people like Mike to live on.

If anybody's seceding, I'm going too!

We HATE YOUR GUTS.

Please don't throw us in that Bre'r Patch!

a different name tho, maybe the Better States of America or something similar.Why would we be the ones considered unAmerican?

US-Original recipe and
US-Extra Crispy

I can see some nasty border skirmishes over who gets to keep the 11 secret herbs and spices.

-MR

lmao! good one.

Yeah I'd love it if they kicked us out. Please do. I don't want to be under the extra crispy laws. Yecchhh!

whatever they want. Just get us the hell out of there.

my neighbors that voted for Bush will move VBG

n/t

Devide Florida into North and South. It might take some relocation for those in Jacksonville though....

I am in South Florida......We can keep Palm Beach, Boward and Key West as Blue vacation land.

:party:

What a wonderful idea. And you know what,of course, PA, WA and Oregon are included!!

Now here we go, how about we call ourselves "The Democratic US", since we are the only states that truly adhere to the laws our forefathers layed down.

Liking this more and more....Freedom!

(I feel like Mel Gibson in Braveheart!) :bounce:

And, personaly, I'd like to see my taxes make it back to the northeast - the roads up here *SUCK!*

On edit: ...and WE get DC! They can move their capital to Crawford! Fuck them - there's NO way they'll get the Smithsonian!

Jesus, the depths of the stupidity of freepers is continually being plumbed.

For gods sake we voted for Mondale - no one else other than DC can say that.

I voted for Mondale. Me and about two other people in New Jersey.
My first vote ever, right after turning 18. A vote against Reagan!

So needless to say I didn't do much. My parents voted for Mondale though, after voting for Ray gun in 80. They've voted DNC ever since.

freeper! Let's do it! I'm READY! I'm MORE than ready! There's nothing I would like MORE! :bounce:

THROW ME in that briar patch, you ignorant redneck asshole.

That it's from Song of the South makes it extra ironic.

Jesus will pay for it.

Think of the benefits!

No more Walmart or Dallas Cowboys or red state welfare. Oh boy!

:-)

blue states for the most part (Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvannia, etc. . . hell, we'll even include Illinois since Abe Lincoln saved the US from ignorant fools like Mr. Thompson), we will retain the title of the United States, since we choose to remain uniteed and he chooses to be an imbecile. I believe an appropriate title for the remaining purple states (since there aren't any real "red" states) would be The Mindless States of Confusion.

Works for me, and all those blue-minded people inn the Mindless States are welcome to migrate north before the Mindless States collaps inward on each other after losing our tax revenue.

Kick us out! Please!

their imports and exports through our seaports out here on the left coast.

Or they could just ship them around South America to the Gulf Coast since many of the new ships wont fit through the Panama Canal

to make up for the shortfall?

I live in Illinois and have family in California so I am ready to be expelled.

How ironic would that be?

:-)

-MR

suddenly have a change of heart! I think taxes even come before God with most conservatives.

Irony to life of for years to come.

and most of my family is in ME, got to figure some way to get sis and her brood from FLA first though

Maybe they won't realize we're taking 9/10 of the American economy until we're already gone

If we sneak away quietly, they won't notice until it's too late. :)

Of course they won't! That's the whole point!

Morans!

but they've GOT to include us midwesterners (MN anyone?) too.

Hawaii comes to my mind!

Where I'm sure more than a few Hawaiians would be glad to get their sovereignty back.

How about no more red state welfare from the blue states ..I've been hearing about?

I noticed that right off the bat. Pretty frikkin' sneaky the way he tried to make off with Hawaii!

you can make Crawford the capitol if you want.

And we'll set up a new underground for blue voters to migrate from red states.
:bounce:

Dixie, my ass!!!

The Great Uniter causes the second civil war.

Please exclude us. We will make a better country without you.
Sorry, I can't help it. I am fed up.

Hertopos

I haven't heard that one before. Excellent.

-MR

I have a whole pocketful of insults. *munch munch*

I live in texas and I don't want to be part of Jesusland. I have a couple of friends who are ready to leave. Do we have to be sneaked out if this happens?

The spirit of Harriet Tubman lives on!

I like it!

DR, sick of the ballot crap in New Mexico

This is the first thing a Freeper has said that I like. Let's put California, New England and the rust belt in one country and watch the other 38 or so states founder into nothingness, then beg us to come back as their fascist policies, idiotic economic strategies, and complete lack of commerce and industry destroy them.

Hell, they can keep the name and the flag, both are tarnished, tattered, bloodied and despised throughout the world now, thanks to them. We could come up with a cooler name, anyway. Like, the Democratic States of North America, or the More Intelligent States of America, or just the States Who Despise the Murdering Traitor in the White House of America.

Or maybe just Fred, I don't care, let's cut those suckers lose. Of course, I'd have to leave my beloved Texas... Wow, that would hurt, having to make new friends who could read and stuff.

edit: oops, itchy apostrophe finger.

Help us!

The Liberty Bell
Independence Hall
National Consitution Center
Christ Church
Carpenter's Hall
(and the above is just a sampling of PA...)
The Smithsonian
The White House
The Library of Congress
Harvard
MIT
Stanford
The best medical institutions in the country
The largest, high volume airports in the country
or...
THE NEW YORK FRIGGIN' STOCK EXCHANGE???

Does he actually think his librul free utopia would be anything other than a 3rd world hole?

Or...does he get the Freeper ideal of continuous war when by having a ME scale dispute over "sacred territories"?

Idiot...

is winning with an age old strategy and it's working quite well here.


"divide et impera", which translates to "divide and rule".

Effective use of this technique allows those with little real power to control those who collectively have a lot of power.

Y'all can keep 'em.

I'll miss my Texas weather, but I'll move out of here in a heartbeat if you can make it happen.

include any of its northern border states in the list. LOL.

Well, at least they are feeling the need to unify as much as we are - Hey, go F@#k yourselves.

Damn, Iowa went red - makes me want to cry. :cry: Don't leave me here, please!

... I mean, what about Washington state?! If the blue states are going, please, for the love of god, take us with you!


MDN

you guys can be the United states of Stupidopia or whatever you choose but WE, I repeat, WE founded this great nation morans. You will not be taking our name without a fight.

"As an admitted "modest proposal" (a la Swift's satiric story of the same name), it is nevertheless serious in pointing out the cancer that continues to threaten our body politic.]"

Although the guy does claim it's satire (I guess to supposedly make a point), his real attitude is revealed when he calls the half of the country that dares to have an opposing opinion a "cancer that continues to threaten."

Hmmmm...a 'social cancer'? Didn't the Nazis use similiar language?

I say "bring it on". I too want a divorce!

Red America would be like Putin's Russia.

Looks like they want to expel their tax base.

refugee camps for all Red Staters of good will.

Nice digs once we sanitize them.

and up into Maine? (However, if you choose to stay and fight on, you have my respect and prayers!)

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Um, guys.

Psst.

One big problem.
They are going to have a big 'ol army and most of the nukes.

President DeLay will invade us.

Um, guys.

Pssst.

There's one big problem.

They're going to have a big 'ol army and most of the nukes.

President DeLay will invade us

never ending war machine. Since we blue states fund it all, Delay's beast would go hungry rather quickly. Unless, the Saudi Royal Family swims to the aid of the red states.

Hey, we'll keep the great lakes and hey...
Teehee--should we damn up the Mississippi? :evilgrin:

We are ACHING to be free of your sorry asses.

eom

BRING.....IT......ON!

Stupid frigging republican bastages.

buh-bye, red states

:bounce:

let me go too!!

Hey, I kind of like the idea of moving to Blue-topia, but leaving a solid red neo-confederate empire with a nuclear arsenal and no voice of reason is a formula for disaster. How long before they decide to nuke the godless Blue states in order to bring back Jesus?

.......a state that fought for this nation's freedom in 1776, AND the Union in the 1860's. This clown, whatever state he's from, can go F himself.

Yes, pleasepleasepleasepleasePLEASE expel us!!

We get to keep the most beautiful coastlines on both sides of the continent, the best skiing, the ONLY world-class surfing, the Statue of Liberty, Broadway, San Fran-gay-mecca-ciso, Silicon Valley, super-rich farmland (WE never had a dust bowl!), the lion's share of the high-tech brain pool, the entire aerospace industry, most of the nation's sugar supply, all the biggest seaports, a huge Navy with plenty of ships and submarines already here, the best ethnic food, the finest wines outside France, Catalina Island, the Farallons, all the best lighthouses, the biggest telescopes, Yosemite, the best dance clubs, both power-centers of the entertainment industry, both the NYSE and NASDAQ, 78% of the queers, most of the best universities and medical centers, the highest mountain in the Lower 48, more than half of Lake Tahoe, almost all of Death Valley, the Yankees, the Giants, the A's, the Angels, the 49ers, the Raiders, all the gold in California, all the best skylines and city views, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and maybe even Disneyland (unless they want to annex Orange County, which is debatable). And while I'll miss Nevada, we've already got Atlantic City, river gambling on the Mississippi, and tribal gaming in California.

And Gray's Papaya! Can't forget Gray's Papaya!

Also, California will no longer be forking out more money to the fed than it receives, and no longer will our electoral votes count for 1/4 the "value" of Wyoming's.

Yes, life will be good in the United States of the Free! All we need is to decide how high the tariffs are going to be on goods imported from the Red States -- and we need somebody to sew the blue flag.

By the way, who gets Guam?

We ship the freeps to Utah.

Care to adopt and convert a purple state? Colorado has skiing! We promise to expell Coors' Brewrey as well. No self respecting dem would drink that swill anyway. PLEEEAAAASSSEEE?

So I'd have to get a new passport before I went back to Japan. Big deal. It would be a small price to pay. :-)

NM wom Kerry.

But it's not an unreasonable doubt to suggest Kerry may have won Ohio and/or Florida thanks to some media pointing out errors in the voting machines...

they need the Great Lakes, no?

But we get to keep the name. Oh, and I NH deserved the right to get kicked out too!

But Michigan is coming along!

The Great Lakes belong to the great! :P

laughable. The poorest States want to expel the richest states?

Please do. I am tired of paying for your incompetence and ignorance (excluding the Kerry voters who live in the Red States, of course).

Actually, after the split, I picture Jesusland looking alot like Taliban Afganistan. Insanely poor, dried up desert, and run by Fundamentalists. We'll have to send UN aide to help them. Oh wait, They hate the UN, never mind.

Oregon has Eugene, you know! Hippietown par excellence!

Oregonians should hang their head in shame they are not counted with the twelwe.

Aren't 10 of the states on his list the original base of the United states? The ones that founded the country? The ones that signed the Declaration of Independence? Surely they would get to keep the constitution and the name USA. "Don't tread on me", remember?

The rest can become Jaysusland.

Also, if New York is kicked out, doesn't that mean that AL Qaeda didn't attack the remaining states (the RSA, or Red States of America)? They attacked the blue, and the war on terror is now officially none of their business?

Ach, what do I know, I'm only a Brit.

We'll all be free and rich at the same time!

I'll even volunteer to help draft the legislation.

x

they wouldn't want to be shut off from the pacific coast due to asian trade, but fuck if I'd want to get stuck with Wingnut America.

does is CA IIRC.

the states being 'expelled' are escaping hell.

The twit overlooked the obvious...Wisconsin also needs to
be cast out from the neocon homeland.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2621253&mesg_id=2621253


Somebody said that the Blue States contribute 90% of the wealth. That sounds high, but anybody got the figures or know where I could get them easily?

Thanks.

That sounds right, don't you think?

And seriously, what about Monticello?

Don't forget to sponsor a blue dem caught in a red state for citizenship.

I'm in Indiana, but I can move right across the border to Illinois, and there I'll be!

we are now a bunch of "liberal elitists"?

:wtf:?

want to immigrate when you all get expelled. I can deal with snow, _{I think.} :scared:

Snow is much, much better than Jebusland.

"With us or against us."

I want to know why half the people in the US have been convinced that the Republican party, mostly comprised of and funded by a bunch of rich people, are NOT elitist.

Man, he could have posed a logical argument, but he had to get silly. You see, one of the great things about the Red States? They are "openly, vigorously heterosexual". LOL, yeah, he wishes, maybe. The ludicrous quality of that statement tells you how smart this guy is. Too bad, because I would like nothing better than to separate from these assholes.

There's a reason for that.......

SQUEEEEEEAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be great!