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ClevelandSportsCurse Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:11 PM
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Ashcroft is not a qualified jurist for the Supreme Court
Not just from an ideological standpoint - we all know what his views are - but from a legal professional standpoint. He has no judgeship experience whatsoever. Usually, Supreme Court nominees are those who have some significant experience on the bench - whether it be at a state supreme court level or US Circuit Court of Appeals level. Ashcroft has been a politician all of his life. He may possess a law degree, but putting ideology aside, he is NOT a qualified jurist for the Supreme Court.

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:12 PM
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1. That Didn't Stop Clarence Thomas
The most unqualified person every to sit on that Court.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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Your reality-based objections are so quaint
Reminds me of a simpler time, really...
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:14 PM
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10. I'll be damned...I can still laugh!
Thanks! :D
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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2. .........and that reality will stop Bush how exactly?
Mandate remember, mandate.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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3. He'd even fail the test for being a sane Human Being. n/t
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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4. Bush wasn't really qualified to be POTUS, either, and lookie now!
But, a very good point.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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5. it's optimistic of you to assume that would stop them.
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:13 PM
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6. Yeah, but if Clarence Thomas is qualified for the SC then so's my horse.
horse.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:14 PM
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7. So?
When did lack of qualifications stop anybody in the bush administration?
Starting at the top, none of them have any qualities required for actually running a country.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:14 PM
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8. Theoretically, perhaps, but that didn't block Clarence Thomas.
from being appointed and confirmed. And I remind you that that pseudo "moderate" (NOT) Arlen Specter championed Thomas, and brags that he voted in favor of EVERY SINGLE JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT put up by W, both in committee and in the full Senate.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:14 PM
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9. Does not matter to our George.
Has he hired anyone competent yet?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:15 PM
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11. Earl Warren had no judical experience either
http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/legal_entity/88/background

Bar Admission California, 1914
Experience Prior judicial experience: None. Warren played politics as Governor of California.
Extra Judicial Position(s) Chair, commision to investigate the assassination of President John F. Kennedy
Father's Office None
Federal Political Position(s) Republican vice-presidential nominee, 1948
Law Practice California, 1914-17
Law School California, Graduated 1914
Military Service Army Lieutenant, 1917-18
State Political Position(s) Deputy city attorney, Oakland, CA, 1919-20; deputy assistant DA, Alameda County, CA, 1920-23; chief deputy DA, Alameda County, CA, 1923-25; DA, Alameda County, CA, 1925-39; attorney general, CA, 1939-43; governor, CA, 1943-53
Undergraduate Education California, B.A. 1912
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:15 PM
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12. And that makes a difference HOW with this group of loonies???
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:16 PM
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13. I think he'll be a Bork-like stalking horse...
the nomination will ignite a whirlwind of protest and likely a filibuster. But after he steps aside, Dubya will be able to put anyone else he pleases on the court.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:20 PM
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14. Steps aside? Pish! The Republican steamroller needs fear no filibuster!
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 06:20 PM by library_max
Come on, how long can the minority talk? They'll either get cloture or they'll find a way to work around it. They have all the machinery. Every time we pretend we still matter, we just volunteer for the blame when the next thing goes wrong. Remember how the anti-war left "lost" the war in Vietnam? Like that.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:23 PM
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16. I don't know. They go a lot of mileage out of Bork...
It is their M.O.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:28 PM
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17. Okay fine. Just go lay down and let them do it then
The greatest heroics occur when the odds are stacked heavily against you.

I don't know whether the Democrats will stand and fight or not. I do know that attitudes such as yours aren't very helpful either way.

Every person on here that bemoans how hard it will be (or impossible it will be) to stop them is making it harder for the people here who DO want to make the effort.

Lay down if you want, but please don't insist that they can't be stopped.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:43 PM
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18. "How hard it will be?" Can you count to 55?
They own it, bro. The "fight" is over - they won. When you're outnumbered on a battlefield, you can fight harder, but when you're outnumbered in the Senate, you can't vote harder. The numbers are all that matters, and the numbers say we lose.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:04 PM
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21. The "fight" is never over.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 07:09 PM by Mojambo
And if you don't want to be a part of it that's fine.

If this is your attitude, you're not needed.

I guess what I'm saying is get on the sidelines and shut up.

I apologize for my harshness but my tolerance for those who say it's over and why bother fighting is at an ALL TIME low right now.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:34 PM
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23. The longer we keep our hands near (not on) the levers of power,
the more years the Republicans get a free ride, blaming us every time the damn ship runs aground. We need to get our hands well away from those levers. Let the Republicans take the blame for their own screw-ups. Because no matter what we do we will not win any fights, not until the Republicans implode or atrophy, and that'll take decades. They control the electoral process and they control all the mechanisms for policing or reforming that process. They will be in power as long as they want or as long as they can keep it together.

The harshness doesn't bother me at all. What I object to is the blindness. Because we are actually hurting ourselves by pretending that, for the time being, we still matter.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:22 PM
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15. Bingo! n/t
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:49 PM
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19. No, he quit because he's going to run for Prez
...and we should encourage that candidacy 100%. It wil split the fundies off from the 'mainstream' republicans and weaken them (like Buchannan did in 92).
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:01 PM
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20. And when he "wins" with 52% of the popular vote
we'll be wondering how such a divisive dumbfuck could possibly be elected President. Again.

The last free and fair Presidential election in the United States was in 1996. And I don't mean the most recent one. I mean the last one.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:11 PM
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22. Anyone who thinks calico cats are the sign of the Devil
is not qualified to be dog catcher (or cat catcher, as this case may be), much less a Supreme Court Justice!
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bat17 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:39 PM
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24. Rehnquist was never a judge. eom
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