Maybe democrats need a high profile religous person

similiar to the republicans having Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. This would help us in the red states.

any center-left religious person would be liekd in the south. I think the Dems future lies in the Northeast, Midwest, and West coast. I am sorry, I just cant see the south changing.It would be like the Northeast going Republican.

most of the Presidents - I seem to remember seeing him with Carter a lot. I really don't believe his ministry is partisan.

I think they should start coming out and getting on the Sunday morning talk shows so our voices are heard not just the nut jobs.

...and KKKarl and George would still skewer him as a 'tax and spend liberal' and a 'flip-flopper with no true convictions' because he's so inclusive to everyone.

They'd call him a communist for sharing the wealth and helping the poor. Not to mention a 'girly man' for having long hair and wearing sandals, and being against capital punishment.



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"Those people don't even believe in Jaysus!"

And that's really not the problem.

The "Christian conservatives" who vote Repiglican are Christian Reconstructionists. They don't operate on anything approaching rational discourse.

It's the rest of the disposed on whom we need concentrate. Like Howard Dean said, the guys driving the pick up with the Easy Rider rifle rack.

John Kerry received 40% in Mississippi and 42% in Georgia. I find it hard to believe - that if John Kerry actually made an effort in these states - he wouldn't be able to persuade an additional 10%.

As for the religous issue. I am sure there are talented religous people that are Democrats. If they had more visibility they could persuade enough people in the red states.

The abortion issue is so basic. No one actually likes abortion. Why can't liberals ask people in the red states why women choose to have aboritons.

It is because these women can't support these children.
Why can't liberals say - women are less likely to have abortions under us because we believe in supporting these children to a certain extent.

This isn't political talk - it's actually true.

Every single vote in Georgia is cast on these:

I left the faith 20 years ago, but I remember LOVE being a big element? I can't remember crap about playing cello either....

Both of them are crooks.

We want to be able to be compete in southern states so every election the blue states are not the only battleground.

I think teh trouble is that what the conservatives find to be moral and what we consider moral just don't always mesh. Or wrose, they mesh more than we realize but due to "Tower of Babel" conversations, we just don't understand each other.

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leader it was Dr. Martin Luther King...and they killed him remember.

yet it is still a valid thought .... I was disappointed that the media, for example, would report that the Catholic bishops opposed Kerry, but refused to print the words of hundreds of priests across the country who spoke out against Bush and his policies. I posted a number of them from the Irish Echo, the largest Irish-American newspaper in the country.

Perhaps we should have made more useof some of the resources available to us. That parish priest can still appeal to the conscience of a large segment of Americans.

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Why is the "answer" always to follow in the right wing footprint??? Democrats do not "need" to find a religious person, please....

Democrats need to use every tool at their disposal. Religion is a means to communicate with these voters. We don't need to be like Falwell and Robertson.

to the democratic party. LBJ lost because of King and all the trouble he caused. Better we remain stubborn sticks in the mud. The tide will turn. Maybe the democrats need to come out in opposition to King's birthday being a holiday.

Hurtling toward my 1000th post, I want to make every one count. Upon serious research and reflection, I've found a religious leader fit for our party.

Introducing Dr. Gene Scott, PhD. of the University Cathedral, Los Angeles, CA. Scholar, televangelist, Blue State kinda guy!

http://www.drgenescott.com/home.htm

"Dr. Scott's main church, known as "The Los Angeles University Cathedral," has more than 15,000 members in the Greater Los Angeles area, and thus is the largest Protestant church in Downtown Los Angeles. Both the Cathedral and the world-famous "Jesus Saves" signs are designated "Historic Monuments." Hundreds gather for Sunday services in this Spanish Baroque-style architectural masterpiece to make a statement about an "upward look" amidst the hustle and bustle of downtown commerce."

Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections.

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