Get Over Your Lib Guilt (Hispanic Version) (GONZALEZ)

BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!!!! Race don't MATTER, only WINGNUTTINESS matters. This dude is ANOTHER (like Clarence THOMAS and Miguel ESTRADA) ---SOCKPUPPET----------get it???????????????? It's NOT a RACE thing!!!!!!!!!!!

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From what I understand he is so far into Bush's back pocket that Bush needs to warn him before he sits down.
Anybody know what this guy is like? What his past record has been?

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We don't want to get tagged as anti-Hispanic. This is an historic appointment for the Hispanic community. Let's not forget that Bush made some serious gains this election with Mexican-Americans. The last thing we want is to be seen as anti-Mexican.

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First of all, GONZALEZ is not a Mexican. That would be somebody who is a citizen of Mexico. Secondly, Beto GONZALEZ is a Shrub butt boy from the way back TX governor days, as somebody posted above, who did the legal scumwork in clearing the way for all the executions. Thirdly, this appointment is just a continuation of cynically USING minority puppets (Clarence THOMAS, Miguel ESTRADA) for wingnut purposes. Almost all of the Hispanic civil rights groups supported the much maligned Dem leadership in opposing ESTRADA. The only Hispanics who might be fooled into taking this appointment as an advance for Hispanics would be the newest immigrants and the children of other generations who don't know their own history with the Dem party.
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Please forgive my crude stereotyping, but i am watching an interview with Gonzales on C-SPAN and can't but help think that this fellow is WAY GAY. Bigtime lisp and effeminate speech for sure. He's definitely not the sort of macho law and order cowboy type that some may expect. I think we may have another member of the "closeted conservative" club, to go with Ralphie Reed, Gary Bauer, Lindsey Graham, David Dreier and so on. Anybody else notice this?

As a hispanic male and a lib, believe me, there is no guilt. This man is scarier than Ashcroft is and I never thought I could say that.

need to CHARGE AHEAD against this Beto FLOOZY!!!!!

The only ones who he would appeal to would the the new imigrants, and the majority of the Cuban population in Fla.

our poor national Dems------DASCHELE---------who had to fight against being the MINORITY-------and our own Dems attacking them at the same time.

Yet, our national Dems DEFEATED ESTRADA!!!!!!!!!

Where it said "guilt - Hispanic version", it would have been clearer to say "Lib guilt (on account of false racism)" or somesuch. I'm referring to the fake trap the Repukes have had our Dem leadership in ever since Poppy started it with Clarence THOMAS.

Is this the same guy who says criticism of Leiberman is antisemitism?

I wish people would stop feeding those trolls.

May he is Dubya's next man date.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

When Rep. Henry Hyde (R-IL) led his impeachment jihad against Bill Clinton, his bottom line was simple: "The Rule of Law." Well, the Rule of Law under the U.S. Constitution includes treaties that are ratified by the Senate. So who advised Bush to unilaterally violate the Geneva Convention - in other words, to break U.S. Law? None other than White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales. Gonzales is also the chief architect of the administration's illegal stonewalling of the GAO. Alberto Gonzales has declared war on the Rule of Law, and he should be impeached.

The dude who wrote the anti-Genveva -Convention thing was John YOO, and GONZALEZ just rubber-stampted it. He is just a TOOL for the B.F.E.E. Like Clarence THOMAS.

the interests of rabi blancos (the wealthy) & conservatives, and everyone else is going to get screwed.

Hispanics can be crazy right wing not jobs too.

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As White House counsel in Bush's first term, Gonzales was known less for ideology than for loyalty to Bush. Indeed, he could be politically tone-deaf in his zeal to protect the authority of his boss in squabbles with Congress. "The Judge," as colleagues called him because of his brief tenure on the Texas Supreme Court, often sparred with Ashcroft and the other movement conservatives at the Justice Department and played the role of arbiter during the first term, listening to arguments of more dogmatic lawyers in the White House and the Justice Department and seeking consensus.

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Conservatives have long been wary of Gonzales. The journal Human Events accused him of sounding "like Mario Cuomo." The National Review said a joke among GOP aides in the Senate was "Gonzales is Spanish for Souter," a reference to David H. Souter, the Supreme Court justice nominated by President George H.W. Bush who joined the court's liberal wing.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41007-20...

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Personally, I didn't pick up an effiminate edge to the interview we were probably watching in sync. Actually, I thought "hey he seems pretty cool," until I Googled him. As an aside, it's a bit disturbing you would call out someone as queer because they're soft-spoken. But, given the circumstance, I'll let that slide...

Closet or not, the top result in Google, which I trust even more than exit polling, came up with:

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=246536

Is this 2004, or 1934? I swear I'm going to parental block all news channels with a random number, while drunk, then listen to Jack Johnson CDs until 2007. I can't take this anymore!

That was a quotation from another thread, somebody else doing that. True, I forgot the UNQUOTE sign at the bottom that I always use.

That said, I don't know anything about his personal habits, unlike the rumors about ESTRADA, but I adhere to the it's-the-hypocrisy principle if there IS anything that the individual contradicts in his public life.

On Edit: And I don't use the Q-word, despite the recent currency of it.

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We don't want to get tagged as anti-Hispanic. This is an historic appointment for the Hispanic community. Let's not forget that Bush made some serious gains this election with Mexican-Americans. The last thing we want is to be seen as anti-Mexican.
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This is the most assinine wingnut crap. It was used extensively by Orrin HATCH during the ESTRADA hearings.

I repeat, IT'S ABOUT THE WINGNUTTINESS, not the ETHNICITY.

Before he was working on making torture and rape of children POWs legal-like, didn't Gonzalez help Smirk and Pickles get new driver's licenses? The little turd from Crawford's thick record was supposed to have the coke arrest and a few stops for DUI and the Haldol sotted chain-smoker had the homicide thing involving her ex-boyfriend.

Oh yeah. Almost forgot that Gonzalez is the creep who helped Vinson & Elkins give ENRON some good accounting advice. A real fine turd of the BFEE.

Sorry no links today. Going from memory.

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=246536

GONZALES APPROVED MEMO AUTHORIZING TORTURE: An August 2002 Justice Department memo "was vetted by a larger number of officials, including...the White House counsel's office and Vice President Cheney's office." According to Newsweek, the memo "was drafted after White House meetings convened by George W. Bush's chief counsel, Alberto Gonzales, along with Defense Department general counsel William Haynes and David Addington." The memo included the opinion that laws prohibiting torture do "not apply to the President's detention and interrogation of enemy combatants."

DEATH PENALTY MEMOS: GONZALES'S NEGLIGENT COUNSEL: As chief legal counsel for then Gov. Bush in Texas, Gonzales was responsible for writing a memo on the facts of each death penalty case – Bush decided whether a defendant should live or die based on the memos. An examination of the Gonzales memoranda by the Atlantic Monthly concluded, "Gonzales repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence." His memos caused Bush frequently to approve executions based on "only the most cursory briefings on the issues in dispute." Rather than informing the governor of the conflicting circumstances in a case, "The memoranda seem attuned to a radically different posture, assumed by Bush from the earliest days of his administration—one in which he sought to minimize his sense of legal and moral responsibility for executions."

GONZALES ACCEPTS DONATIONS FROM LITIGANTS: In the weeks between hearing oral arguments and making a decision in Henson v. Texas Farm Bureau Mutual Insurance, Justice Alberto Gonzales collected a $2,000 contribution premium from the Texas Farm Bureau (which runs the defendant insurance company in this case). In another case, Gonzales pocketed a $2,500 contribution from a law firm defending the Royal Insurance company just before hearing oral arguments in Embrey v. Royal Insurance.

That is, we can't stop this appointment. But our poor, beleaguered Dem leaders stood firm on ESTRADA and won. Plus, almost all of the Hispanic organizations opposed ESTRADA. We canNOT let the Shrubbites use the FAKE "racism" tactic. It's about FASCISM and WINGNUTism. And sockpuppetry.

confirmed. Liz and Rachel just said this a few minutes ago. I guess our guys at AAR are just becoming believers in fait accompli. That we will all appear "reverse racists" if we campaign against this man although he can certainly be considered the torture guy. He has never tried a case, never published in a legal journal,and has removed judicial oversight in several instances.

That's the wingnut wedge that Orrin HATCH and all the other wingnuts used throughout the ESTRADA hearings. It's about the FASCISM, not the ethnicity.

As far as "fait accompli" - this may be the way it is based solely on the numbers we don't have in Congress, but it doesn't mean that the congressional Dems shouldn't STRONGLY OPPOSE the danged nomination. Almost all of the Hispanic organizations opposed ESTRADA and probably will oppose GONZALEZ.

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Then click on "shows"
The click on "Unfiltered"
follow the directions to get to their email form.
They also have a blog which you can post on but it does no good unless they are on the air. It is best to email them.

It's NOT about "ethinicity"!!!!!!! It's about FASCISM------AND----sockpuppetry!!!!!!!!!