How they are trying to demoralize us

1) The majority of voters were values voters--not true. Time and again, surveys show that Americans support liberal values. This is a RW talking point to try to intimidate liberals.

2) Those who believe voting "irregularities" ought to be investigated are tin-foil-hat wearing conspiracy theorists and internet nutjobs--not true, 6 members of Congress have written to the GAO to investigate and Election boards are reporting system-wide voting problems.

3) Kerry supporters did not really support Kerry, they were ABB--perhaps immediately after the primaries, when Dems were trying to recalibrate their disappointment over their preferred (out of nine) losing, but by the time summer rolled around, most Dems were enthusiastic about Kerry.

Do not buy the bullcrap. They are trying to marginalize half the US population and demoralize those of us who will continue to fight for every political seat from dogcatcher to US Senator.

They'll be posting here soon ya know...

They're trying to do it to all of us. :)

an addition to the list which would include apparently in a non-organized way coming to the DU discussion boards and spreading doom and gloom.

I have been looking for inspirational words, and found this article,

Excerpts from “Looking for America” by Kevin Powell

full article:
http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/headline.php?id=178
>snip<
I am not going to surrender the moral high ground, any longer, to these right-wing activists who pretend to care about the average American, and really do not. And you should cease surrendering as well, if you truly care about freedom and democracy. For if we capitulate in this arena we will never be able to have any fruitful discussions, debates, and actions about the Iraqi War, this destructive economy, the lost jobs, nor about race, gender, class, religion, sexuality, poverty, hunger, homelessness, the environment, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the genocidal mayhem in the Sudan, the crisis in Haiti, and every other human drama that demands our attention. And at the end of the day it should not matter whether one is Black, White, Latino, Asian, Native American, or Arab; liberal or conservative; a Democrat or a Republican; Christian, Jew, or Muslim; what should matter is what type of human being you are, what type of human being you aspire to be, and whether you have any regard, any concern, any God-given compassion, true compassion, no just lip service, for other human beings.

I am looking for an America that respects every explanation for life, for the creator, the lifegiver, the higher power, that entity some of us may refer to as God, that others may refer to as Allah. I am looking for an America that ceases to refer to itself as a Christian nation but, instead, as a nation of many faiths, or many spiritual walks, a nation that has a tolerance and a patience not just for Christians, but also for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Rastafarians, Yorubas, all the many belief systems that manifest themselves daily within these borders.

And I am looking for an America where through much defeat and pain and suffering we can birth new possibilities, new ways of being and doing. We are not losers, friends, those of us who voted for Mr. Kerry, or, in some instances, against Mr. Bush. I am not, and neither are you. We who believe in real democracy, in real freedom, in real self-determination, who believe in the creative force or forces that placed us on this planet, who believe in the possibilities of humankind, in truth, in justice, in life, who believed that our efforts, our sweat, our vote, could and would count a few days ago, on Tuesday, November 2, 2004, here in America, have nothing to be ashamed of. Nothing at all. Nor should we see the reelection of President George W. Bush, and the defeat of Senator John Kerry as the beginning of a great catastrophe for us, for this country. No, what we have is a beginning, a start, with necessary speed bumps along the way. But the questions remain for all of us to ponder. What are we going to do to create the America, to create the world, we so desire? And are we, each of us, willing to look within ourselves for that answer?
>snip<

On edit: Mods, I have permission to post more than the usual 4 graphs of this particular column. Skinner has the proof if you need it. Thx!)


From Eric Zorn at the Chicago Tribune:

I refuse to concede the idea that the person who wants to amend the Constitution to prevent a loving, consenting same-sex couple from creating a legally recognized bond containing all the rights and responsibilities of marriage has higher "moral values" than the person who doesn't.

I refuse to concede that the person who believes it's his right to interpose his beliefs about right and wrong into the often painful and very difficult decisions made by pregnant women and their doctors has higher "moral values" than the person who doesn't.

I refuse to concede that the person who wants the government to endorse one particular belief about the supernatural over another has higher "moral values" than the person who thinks it's none of government's business to take sides on matters of faith.

There's more.

I refuse to concede that a person has higher "moral values" if he believes in God.

I refuse to concede that a person has higher "moral values" because he strives to restrict free expression of political and artistic ideas that may offend others.

I refuse to concede that a person has higher "moral values" because he subscribes to the errant notion that "abstinence-only" is the best way to teach teenagers about sex.

I refuse to concede that a person has higher "moral values" because he believes in diverting public education money into voucher programs that would end up using tax dollars to fund parochial schools.

I refuse to concede that a person has higher "moral values" because he favors capital punishment and opposes medical marijuana and fetal stem-cell research.

In short, I refuse to concede that true "moral values" are inherent in the entire grab-bag of conservative causes, notions, paranoias and fantasies to which we have attached both that label and the equally abused and co-opted term "family values."

Morality – right and wrong – is bigger than that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ericzorn/chi-zornlog.story#moralvalues

Kerry is the President that this country badly needs right now!

to his campaign.

After Kerry's aides, along with Gephardt's and Clarks', ran a Repuke-lite attack on Dean in Iowa, I refused to support the Bore from Boston. I only voted for him because, like Dean, I had promised to vote for the Dem nominee to oust Bush.

Thank you for sharing! And how does this post fit in a thread about how THEY are trying to demoralize us?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38001-2004Nov9.html.

This paragraph shows how "moral" values are not defined by the majority of people just in terms of gay marriage or abortion:

Battling the notion that "values voters" swept President Bush to victory because of opposition to gay marriage and abortion, three liberal groups released a post-election poll in which 33 percent of voters said the nation's most urgent moral problem was "greed and materialism" and 31 percent said it was "poverty and economic justice." Sixteen percent cited abortion, and 12 percent named same-sex marriage.

Sounds like these are the moral values that the Repugs are good at creating.

and it's all b*llsh*t! i can't believe there are some in the Democratic arena that are buying this crap!

damn it, we've got to do some demoralizing of our own! they couldn't win a legitimate election if their lives depended on it!

like all of a sudden, the * has 3 & 1/2 million in excess popularity, and like since the 2000 election, exit polls don't work anymore! give me a break! stop doubting what is in-our-faces OBVIOUS!