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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:54 PM
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NBC "news"...calling evidence of stolen election "conspiracy theories"
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 07:00 PM by linazelle
and the internet from which most of the claims come from "a parallel universe."

They show the claims of votes being cast on computers for Kerry registering as Bush votes, and the Ohio votes for Kerry going to Bush as well as Nader saying there was vote tampering.

Then, they have one guy, credentials unnamed, poo-pooing all the claims in summation saying "no, I don't think the election was stolen."

Oh well, that settles it. Move on. Nothing to see here.

PS: They added that Kerry stated today that the election outcome is "not in doubt."
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:56 PM
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1. that's funny
I thought conspiracy theories weren't worthy of corporate tee-vee.

These corporate whores are hedging their bets, as always.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:14 PM
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19. Oh, THAT'S why W. said "internets"!
because on his internet, Niger conspired to sell yellowcake to Iraq, and Hussein conjured WMD's out of sand, and Mohammed Atta conspired with bin Laden though his ass was in spain, and gays in his alternate internet conspire to turn your children in to drag queens, and moose conspire together to shut down the entire snomobile industry, and caribou have a major conspiracy againt pipelines, etc. etc ad nauseum.

How dare they even say the CT words when the biggest conspiracy theorist in this country sits in the fucking oval office.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:19 PM
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23. ** is not a CT, he's a conspiracist. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:19 PM
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24. Exactly. (GMTA)
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:08 PM
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35. excellent points
another example of projection. good catch.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:18 PM
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22. Isn't the whole "Saddam and 9/11" a conspiracy theory?
Why doesn't the whorporate media ever call it that? (Probably because it's even less substantiated than any populist 'conspiracy theory.')
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:20 PM
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28. They only call things they don't want us to believe "conspiracies"
Got it now??? I knew you'd come around. :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:56 PM
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2. We are becoming a threat
NPR, according to a friend, actually said that he may not have won

Then we have olberman

I just say one thing, when the Watergate of our age is uncovered, can we all cancell Brokaw's and Jenning's licences?
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:58 PM
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4. And doesn't Olberman work for NBC? I guess they forgot that.
How conveeeenient. Not.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:59 PM
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5. The networks poo-poohed Watergate.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:02 PM
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9. NPR read a letter today complaining that NPRs coverage...
...of this issue was bad journalism.

The letter said that NPR's reporter just gave his opinion that there was not fraud, didn't tell us what facts he was relying upon, and didnt' give listeners the opportunity to hear both sides of the story from first-hand sources.

That's not exactly and endorsement of the idea that there might have been fraud, and I won't hold my breath for the day NPR stops using its reporters to spin stories rather than just report facts.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:05 PM
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11. The same letter needs to go to NBC, although they won't give a shit n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:09 PM
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14. Best indication that there might be a story there is that "journalists"
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 07:22 PM by AP
use this tactic to address the questions -- they're so eiger to tell us there isn't a story, but don't have any facts to present that suggest that there isn't a story.

If they had better explanations, they'd give them. Instead we're left with the reporters' personal opinions served up disguised as reporting.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:15 PM
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20. Whoa, I bet some of the neo-cons at NPR choked on that one.
will they ever recover?
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:58 PM
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3. FarLeftRage calling nbc "news"
Reich-wing bullshit and repuKKKe corpoRATe propangda...
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:00 PM
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7. Woah...
That's a creepy, but accurate animation you got there. Also, thank goodness for Olberman,only news program I've watched at all since the election. Hope he continues the good job tonight.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:02 PM
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8. Definitely BS. No investigation or FACTS to rebuke the claims at all
They basically dismiss them claims as conspiracies. When will people wake up and see through this veil of deceit?
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:12 PM
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18. People, I'm afraid will
have to experience a traumatic hell before they finally wake and realize that they're being screwed royally...
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:59 PM
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6. "conspiracy theories"
It's just a nice little way of dismissing something you don't want to think about.

In a way, I ALMOST feel sorry for the media. Here they are, with what would undoubtedly be the STORY OF THE FUCKING CENTURY and they're so far up *'s ass they can't persue it. Little cannibalistic bastards have gotta be twitching every time they have to dismiss it to appease their Republican overlords.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:03 PM
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10. ABC, NBC, CNN
Those three are scared of us. CBS seems to have been ignoring the issue, except for an online-only piece. MSNBC is also pretty silent as a whole, except for Keith Olbermann and David Shuster.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:05 PM
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12. THEY are the "a parallel universe."
For them to address those of us on the web shows they can't stand being questioned either, much like our president.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:12 PM
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36. excellent point.
it's the media equivalent of Bush's classic: "I know how the world works".

They define reality, and thusly, define non-reality.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:08 PM
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13. I am sending postcard
to as many media as possible with a short and sweet message. "You have sold your soul, hope it was worth it"
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:12 PM
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17. Don't buy the postcards with the Reagan stamp--please j/k
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:09 PM
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15. Do you know why there are so many Conspiracy Theories?
Because there are so many Conspiracies.

:freak:
dbt
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:20 PM
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26. Such a good point, the secrecy of this administration, the media
not holding this administration accountable, the lock down on voting machines and election results. And they are asking why we are skeptical?

They just want to keep a thumb on us. They want to be the media gods who tell us what to think.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:12 PM
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16. the men who run nbc belong on death row
and they have nothing to say about nothing
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:17 PM
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21. They blew the whole thing off like it was a joke.
I believe it was a Kerry 'spokesperson' who said the election was not in doubt.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:19 PM
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25. I remember Jeff Greenfield of CNN once had the gall to call
Noam Chomsky's views as those "from Neptune".This about a man who is considered by everyone to be a scrupulously honest and truthful writer and, let us even forget that he is considered by many to be one of the foremost intellectuals of our time. The common tactic of these midget blabbermouths on TV is to simply brand all opinions that fall outside their so called "Conventional Thinking" (CT, for short)
as "Conspiracy Theory" ( That nasty acronym CT again).In short, their CT is OK.Our CT is bad.
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mom-mad-about-bush Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:20 PM
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27. What they call "conspiracy" ... I call "democracy".
Let's face it....the main stream media is scared of the internet!!! They can't stand that now you have to be on-line to get the "scoop" not watching T.V. Who was doing all the fact checking during the election???? Was it a conspiracy that the media reported lies, until the internet proved the truth???

I say....keep supporting Keith Olbermann and MSNBC...they are doing a great job! Here is the e-mail link: <http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/?command=org_pages&org_id=558>
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reddogbluedog Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:25 PM
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29. If there was something to this kerry would be all over it
maybe its time we just move on
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:28 PM
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30. If this wasn't such a pathetic post, I'd laugh. Enjoy the short stay. nt
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:15 PM
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37. you mean you didn't laugh?
that post cracked me up. so unpolished.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:31 PM
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31. "First they ignore you."
"Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."
- Gandhi

NGU.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:33 PM
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32. I love that quote. They've laughed at us, I guess it's time to fight. nt
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:05 PM
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33. Only freepers care what the whores say in what used to be the media
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:07 PM
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34. Why doesn't that surprise me? n/t
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