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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:55 PM
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Anderson Cooper CNN Covered the fraud tonight
They actually did a decent though not thorough account - they covered Cuyahoga County, they mentioned machines not functioning right and giving Bush 4,000 extra votes. They said it was something wrong in the software code.

They weren't dismissive.

Of course the question is, if something was wrong in the code on those machines, wouldn't it be wrong in EVERY machine, if quality control was doing its job (loading the same software version in each machine)?

Or if only those machines had the lines of code inserted, what is the implication?
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:56 PM
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1. I think the Ohio recount by the green party would help solve that. Those
damn machines must go! For the sake of this nation! Think of the children!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:57 PM
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2. This is encouraging...
I'm glad that he didn't "conspiritize" the information. Every time the issue of fraud is expressed with no smirking..it is a step in the right direction.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:58 PM
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4. He actually did say...
'Election fraud conspiracy'
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:16 PM
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6. SF Gate on-line did an article
but it was dismissive. That bummed me because SF Chronicle is way liberal---the most of any mainstream NP. He dismissed it as being started by forums such as these. Well, the Swift Boat Vet attacks were started as result of the Internet buzz, and look what that got! So I e-mailed the author and told him as much. I asked: How is it that our Internet buzz is brushed aside, whereas the Swift Boat Vets for Lies got coverage night after night. Why does one man's pile of crap get regurgitated over and over and another man's not (seeing as he equated them to be the same level of truth)?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:30 PM
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7. Votes
Hi all, first time poster here. I'm a kos, atrios, JK/JE gal who just wandered over awhile back. I continue to be astonished on a daily basis, by what is going on in this country. It feels like I have been slipped a drop of acid, and each day upon awakening I'm just as *'d as the day before. Horrendous actions taken by this country. And I alwayswondered how Hitler did it.....As far as the vote thing, I for one had thought from the get-go, if the votes were counted we would have won. And who didn't know there were problems with accuracy? Surely, the purpose of GOTV efforts was to 'overwhelm' the total so that we could absorb the fraud and still win. There seems to be an abundancy of crap that has been outed by various sources concerning this administration and its partners in power and money, and nothing sticks. The playing of the game is a little over my head, but I sure hope that we still have some players in it. Can't imagine what it will take to finally bring them down, but I sure hope its' soon.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:54 PM
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10. Welcome to DU!
This place can save your sanity if you can handle the truth. (sometimes it's damn depressing knowing how much crap is going on)

I agree with you, every new day boggles the mind. They keep getting away with whatever lies and deceptions they chose. At least here some of us are fighting the good fight.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:58 PM
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3. STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT!
If you keep asking QUESTIONS then the press would have to DIG... INVESTIGATE... and REPORT.... DON'T YOU KNOW THEY HATE DOING THAT? Just stop making LOGICAL queries, OK? geez
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:09 PM
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5. email him here
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GuardingVirginia Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:30 PM
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8. wash post.. a small small ray of light
The Washington Post was a tad dismissive today and I was a little annoyed. But there is just a bit of doubt and hedge room in the article. And so I was thinking some people would look and think... what the 'fraud' are they talking about? And so I began thinking it did some good. The average curious voter might just plug in 'election fraud' and wonder on in to the murkey waters with us.

:-)
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:51 PM
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9. Sorry, but I thought he trivialized it. The entire story suggested that
the charges of fraud are based on misunderstandings (due to temporary clerical errors that have been corrected) or exaggerations (of isolated glitches). Their dismissal of the problems in Florida made it sound as if the only counties involved were the Dixiecrat counties in the northern part of the state. It's true that those largely-Democratic counties voting for Bush can't be considered evidence of fraud, as many people mistakenly believed at first (before past election results were checked). But as Keith Olbermann pointed out in his blog, at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/ , there are 24 other Florida counties using optical scanning where there were large Democratic majorities among registered voters, yet landslides for Bush. Those 24 counties are scattered across the state, not in the Dixiecrat area. CNN's story suggested that only the Dixiecrat counties' election results had been questioned. so any allegations of fraud in Florida could be easily explained away.

I thought it was a way for CNN to claim they'd "covered" the fraud story, without really covering it.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:35 PM
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11. thanks for the welcome!
I swore off the computer after the election,...it hasn't worked. Can't watch the news, afraid to go looking around the sites, more afraid not to. Don't want to start drinking the kool-aid, but it must be nice. I find this board one of my faves...not too much dem bashing or hate-speak to boil my blood.
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:53 PM
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12. "Subliminal Spin" by Anderson Cooper???
Note: I actually posted this on another more general thread but it probably works better here.
>>>
Right before they discussed the alleged reports of voter fraud they interviewed this millionaire who is advertising a 9/11 conspiracy theory in which he claims an airplane did not actually crash into the Pentagon and that the collapse of the WTC was an inside job brought down by explosives (as opposed to structural damaged caused by the impact of the airplanes). This guy gave a truly piss poor interview and came off looking like a bit of a nutjob.

Immediately after that Anderson webt straight into the story about claims of voter fraud.

Maybe I'm tainted by how things are packaged in the media because I used to work in the industry in London and LA...but I can easily imagine the CNN producer planning out the show: "Alright...for this segment we'll have wacko 9/11 conspiracy theorist tailed by this voter fraud nonsense. Yeah, that'll fit nicely together."

Just wondering if anyone else got the same sort of vibe!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:57 PM
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13. he did make it sound like individual glitches
In my email I asked him to explain how the programming errors ("glitches") got into some machines, but not all.

A few instances of computers having programming errors raises a lot of questions - obvious to all of us here, but they need to report it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:09 PM
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15. and why they all go to bush
remember in south texas and new mexico, hit straight dem ticket and would kick out a vote for bush then a straight dem ticket on the rest
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:02 PM
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14. It really gets CNN that MSNBC got this story first!!!
and we still haven't seen what the recount shows

:bounce:
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