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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:44 PM
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Help, my Husband is sick of my election talk
He didn't work the many hours I did but was all gung ho to get Bush out. Now he doesn't want the word election or Bush said in this house. I think that you all might understand. I can't let it go. I can only think of 06 and 08. Some of my friends having the same trouble. How are you all fairing. If he thinks that I'll keep my mouth shut he's nuts.:evilgrin:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:46 PM
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1. think about 04
if this isnt fixed there wont be a 06 or a 08
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:47 PM
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2. You may be right
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:52 PM
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7. You've got that right. n/t
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:48 PM
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3. i've retreated to the bedroom with my laptop
because as he put it this morning at breakfast "I"M DONE WITH THIS NOW"
but I agree I can't just sit down and shut up
he apologized an hour ago because I told him he could have cereal for dinner:evilgrin:
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:50 PM
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6. Tell him to be sure to have a variety of cereal on hand
because it's going to be a long 4 years.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:54 PM
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10. I just read him your reply
and he said that we needed to go to Costco this weekend (bulk buying)LOL
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:48 PM
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4. you could learn Klingon
and speak about Bush and Cheney and the election in Klingon-speak.

I saw a show on this guy who learned the Klingon language, it took him five years to do it.

you could go to the Betty Bowers website ("Betty Bowers is a better Christian than you") and threaten to talk like she talks all the time unless your husband lets you speak your mind.

You could learn the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights, and recite them instead, night and day.

Or any combination of these, and before long he will be begging you to say "bush, cheney, iraq" etc in plain old english.

I'm okay, but my day was so bad I can't even do anything but joke rigth now.

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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:48 PM
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5. Same
Only I keep thinking we can make a differance now by making sure every vote is counted so we do not have the same problem again and he keeps saying who runs the government and telling me Bush has already proved that dihonesty lieing and steeling are what the American People want. He said it was silly for him to think this Election would have actually ended on Nov 2nd thus giving him his wife back lol.
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:08 PM
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18. That's the spirit! We're the suffragettes of the 21st century!!!!!
If you want to motivate him further, I highly recommend a movie produced by HBO last year called "Iron Jawed Angels". They have it at our local library and might at your's.

Alice Paul

Feminist, Suffragist and Political Strategist
Alice Paul was the architect of some of the most outstanding political achievements on behalf of women in the 20th century. Born on January 11, 1885 of Quaker parents in Mt. Laurel, New Jersey, Alice Paul dedicated her life to the single cause of securing equal rights for all women.

Few individuals have had as much impact on American history as has Alice Paul. Her life symbolizes the long struggle for justice in the United States and around the world. Her vision was the ordinary notion that women and men should be equal partners in society.

Alice Paul courageously led the final campaign for women's right to vote. She stood up to Congress and the President of the United States, inspiring thousands to join the struggle. As a brilliant political strategist, Alice understood that securing the right to vote was only the first step. After the 1920 victory, she authored the Equal Rights Amendment and initiated gender equality in both the United Nations Charter and in the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Alice Paul died on July 9, 1977 in Moorestown, New Jersey, just a few miles away from her birthplace and family home of Paulsdale.

Alice Paul's life proves that one person can truly make a difference. Her legacy lives on to bear witness to the significance of her life and to inspire others who struggle for social justice.


http://www.alicepaul.org/
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:09 PM
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19. Maybe you can help him get his DEMOCRACY back.
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:14 PM
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25. I did :)
He then said he did not mean I should give up lol my daughter looked at him and said Dad thats exactly what you were telling her ;)
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:52 PM
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8. Same boat here
My husband was just as sick last Wed. that my activism wasn't going to end as he was upset that Bush was declared the winner. He said he had been so looking forward to having the negativity end.
He complained that that's all we ever talk about. All politics all the time.

I've found myself on DU a LOT more in the past week since I have to respect his request to "not hear about it" anymore (or at least not as much). DU certainly does help alot.
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Kira Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:57 PM
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11. That's so funny because
my husband said before the election that he couldn't wait for me to stop being so angry all of the time and that four years of anger was enough. He does feel the same way I do but he doesn't think the recount is going to work. I love DU.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:39 PM
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40. me too
My husband just couldn't understand why I was crying and so upset last Wednesday. I had worked sooo hard to convince him to vote for Kerry, because he just couldn't see HOW bad Bush actually is. We live in Houston, Texas, and my husband experienced Bush as Governor here, and thought that he was great! Ouch. Anyway, my honey did actually vote for Kerry this year, but just doesn't understand my angst and anger over the situation in which we now find ourselves. Like you, he thought that once the election was over and the result in, I would 'move on'. Since then, I found DU (Thank God!) and have been able to at least feel some sense of community.

When I first spoke with my husband about how I felt the election was 'stolen', he groaned and said I was now part of the 'lunatic fringe'. Hmmm... However, the other night when Keith Olbermann started covering the election fraud stuff, he listened, and then actually apologized and said we might be onto something! Can you believe it? I was most surprised... Hang in there!
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:43 PM
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41. Welcome to DU lavenderdiva!
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:49 PM by truthseeker1
:bounce: :hi:
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:39 PM
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47. thank you
thank you!
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Dissent Is Patriotic Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:53 PM
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9. In his heart he knows you mean well....
and you do, so keep on, and eventually he will come around again. I read on an earlier thread that they are now attributing some post traumatic stress syndrome to kerry supporters in this election. i truly believe it. i am so sad. i need to say that. so incredibly sad, not without hope but just depressed.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:59 PM
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12. It is certainly good to know that I'm not alone
Talking is good therapy. My Demo friends I worked these many years with , we go out and rehash and rehash. Thanks to you all too. I'd have gone nuts by now......:crazy:
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dwarfsky Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:01 PM
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13. My hubby's trying to be patient,
but I know I’m getting on his nerves. Hence why I joined DU. To stay involved without driving him nuts, hopefully.

Glad to know I’m not the only one.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:05 PM
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15. DU an great place to vent
and not get ejected from the job and house. And cheaper than a shrink. LOL I can't learn KLINGON and he does the cooking. I guess he'll come around after the apocalypse LOL
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:11 PM
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21. welcome dwarfsky!
:toast:
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:47 PM
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44. Welcome dwarfsky!
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 PM by truthseeker1
:bounce: :hi:

You've found a great place. When my husband told me he didn't want to hear about it anymore, I just told him, fine, I'd go find others who DO want to talk about it :) He's come around a little since last week, and he's just as burnt about the whole votergate, but I think he feels like we're fighting an uphill battle. At least he's on my (our) side....he just wants to get back to enjoying life. Don't we all??
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:03 PM
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14. Do what I did to my husband
He started yelling at me that we couldn't make a difference. That the government always wins and no matter what I do, it won't change anything.

Don't know if you have children or not but I let him cool off a day and then hit him with this:

Do you realize that we tell the kids that they can be anything when they grow up? XXXXX wants to be a lawyer and maybe be the first woman president. She's a teenager now so that time will pass quickly. When you help her with her softball, you tell her to keep practicing and the more she practices, the better she'll get. We tell the girls to study hard and they'll get good grades.

In essence, we're telling the kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough but you telling me that I can't make a difference is telling the girls just the opposite. I am telling them what news I find out about what is going on and trying to keep them engaged so that they will be able to see ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE and you're telling them it's not.

Make up your mind. Don't you think we owe it to the girls? Every email that I send to representatives of congress, the senate, the media, etc... just feeds the fire that the rest of the people working as hard as I am are doing. The more people that push the issue, the more we can move them to do what we want. If I give up, then someone else may give up and then, YES, we will not be able to achieve anything but I'm not going to let that happen.

*grin* He looked at me and said, "I never thought about it that way". I think he was just feeling slighted because he wasn't getting the attention that this is in my life right now so I've made a conscience effort to dote on him when I can and give him the attention that he wants.

He's even let me keep my plywood sign that I have on the corner of our property that reads "Having doubts about the election? I have proof". He drove my truck to work last night for the first time with my sheets of papers in the windows and taped to the tailgate which depict GW - Hail to the Cheat, Support our troops Not the War, Give Bush the Boot, etc....

I guess it's just how you approach them.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:10 PM
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20. Politics
can become all consuming. Although he didn't help with this much we worked on taking out a MAJOR state politician together 10 years ago and it was a blast. Lets just say it was not through election process.And he had more at stake this time around....like his job. Maybe he's just feeling it different than I.:argh:
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:06 PM
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16. So is my fiance
but I just tell him, "Okay, so I care enough about my country to try to do something to save it. If you don't, that's up to you. But don't shit on me just because I've got a conscience." Made him come to a meeting last night about rallying. He sat quietly through it, but at least he was there.
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liberDave Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:06 PM
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17. Live your life.....
that is the best way to face this. You must go about life without thinking that this President is the be all and end all of your life. Now get out there and live and have some fun.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:11 PM
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22. My husband walked up and peeked at your posting.
He told me to tell you to tell your husband that he is NOT alone. Mine is sick and tired of my political ranting and raving and I believe secretly he was hoping Kerry'd win just so I'd quit my moaning.

I can't keep my mouth shut about it all, either.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:26 PM
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33. I will pass on that message so he know he's not alone lol
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:12 PM
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23. How about this quote from Dante' -
(not exact)

"The hottest place in hell is reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, remain neutral".
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:15 PM
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27. Very nicely put.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:15 PM
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28. Silence...........
Is the voice of complicity, and I choose NOT to COMPLY!!!!!!!:dem:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:00 AM
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48. Good for You!!!
You have your moral cloak on correctly.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:13 PM
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24. Personally
I'm quite burned out on the subject myself. We all have different tolerance levels. We've declared our house a no-politics zone through the holidays. I'm on DU but that's it. No news on TV, no newspapers even. Nothing.

Give him some time. He'll be ok.
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:14 PM
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26. Yeh, I think mine is getting sick of it too. But I can't help it. I can't
get over this yet. I am still mourning the loss of President Kerry. I know there are these stages of mourning so I guess I just need to progress through those to finally get over this. And folks, I've never been a real political person. Not til the theft of 2000 and especially now, the theft of 2004. Sure, I've voted for the past 30 years but I've never gotten into a campaign like I've done this year. Grief and mourning is rough but at least I can still come here and be around some people who feel the same.
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:32 PM
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34. Stop mourning and be an activist
Email the media daily, email your state representatives daily, sign petitions, wear buttons which provoke questions and talk to people about it. There is strength in numbers. WE NEED EVERYONE TO STAY ACIVE AND NOT JUST MOURN ABOUT LOSING
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:17 PM
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29. In the same boat here.
My husband wants to know what part of "I don't want to hear another word about this election or politics in general," don't I understand? So I have stopped talking to him about this like he requested. :-( He says there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it (he's wrong of course) so why dwell on it. He thinks the morans who voted for this evil monster will be sorry. I agree, but that doesn't console me.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:18 PM
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30. I agree with that also
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:20 PM
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31. Oh my god word for word the same in my house
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:21 PM by marlakay
My husband hates Bush but sick of election talk and I feel frustrated that I have no one to talk to about it so I come on here more now.

And I won't shut up either although it has caused a lot of fights. He thinks that the dems won't win again in our life time (we are 48 & 54) and I don't agree. I said we have to have purpose in our lives and fight for what is right and he thinks it is a waste of energy.
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:25 PM
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32. Thanks all
I feel beter. Knowing that I'm not alone in this sure helps. Saved me hundreds at life springs tonight. lol :hug:
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:35 PM
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37. We're just about the same age. :)
:loveya:

:yourock:
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:32 PM
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35. change the subject
At our house we are reading everything we can about the patriots from the American Revolution, the conditions in Germany in the 30's and American politics in the 1850's and discussing those subjects. We believe that they represent a more realistic and productive area for discussion than who is going to run with what kind of advertising campaign in the 2006 election.

Anyone who is not engaged in politics at this time in our history should be checked for a pulse IMHO.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:33 PM
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36. My husband can't even talk about it yet
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:38 PM by lukasahero
He's almost despondent and I was beginning to worry. Tonight I told him that while he's still depressed I'm now angry. We won't (can't) talk about the details until he gets past this but he seemed more receptive tonight than he has in a week. I think he's beginning to move past despondency.

Give your husband time. I realized that even though he hadn't spent the time and energy and effort that I had on it, he was still invested in the outcome of the election. The way I see it is I have a great opportunity to move him from being interested to being involved. One more "soldier in the fight against the right". Yay us.

ETA: Damn it's nice to know I'm not alone. :hug:
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:37 PM
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38. Yea' my wife's about to divorce me (she says what did you expect?)
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:38 PM by DuaneBidoux
My wife is originally French, and obviously voted for Kerry but never believed it would be counted (French really are cynical people-too much history). We need to do something like what happened in France in 1968. It almost led to the 6th Republic. Maybe here its time for a second.
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Winamericaback Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:39 PM
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39. Can;t say I blame him but
it really is something that should be talked about.

My mother who voted Bush said if she thought it was this important to me she would have voted for Kerry and hoped that he won so I would shut up lol

My fiance is irritating in a different way " Any news yet, hear anything new? whats going on with the recounts? Are they going to get them, do you think he might win after all ... what are they saying at DU?" It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't every hour.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:43 PM
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42. I partner is too
So I quietly post on DU.

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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:46 PM
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43. I don't usually dream and I have been every night about
the election in some way. I dream that I am argueing with someone about Kerry losing. About how upset I am. Etc. All of the dreams are different but I wake up feeling upset. I am trying to get over it but I put more into this election than any other.

Part of me really really actually does want to start a new country with red and blue. I know it sounds crazy but I feel like I have nothing in common with most of the country now. Its like they live on a different planet and my taxes go to support their weird shit.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:58 PM
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46. Speaking of dreams....
my husband had a dream several days before the election that Bush would win - he didn't mention it to me though because he didn't want it to come true and he thought if he just kept quiet maybe it wouldn't.
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gratefull4u Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:43 AM
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50. I wake up all through the night
after having strange dreams I can't explain. I have never done this before, of course I have never been this scared before. I honestly feel I don't live in the USA anymore. Tonight when my ABC station didn't show Saving Private Ryan" because of fear the nuts would complain I'm almost ready to give up.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:47 PM
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45. my husband disgusted by his fellow repugs
he just told me tonight emailed his brother telling him how down he is cause of it ect.........i knew he was bothered and not wanting to be around any talk, lol lol he refuses to allow any news, but i didnt know how bothered. though each day i get pieces he is more bothered than i thought. anyway, really trying to keep it out of his life

since he has always been about a political, and this was his first time passionate and then to lose, i am respecting him as much as possible and i talk to everyone else about it and leave him alone to lick his wounds. dont let it go if you dont want, but try and respect him. this is really really tough for some. not as tough for me, just life, the ups and downs. kinda sit in the nows of things
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:08 AM
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49. Some people just won't learn till something bad happens unfortunately.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:04 AM
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51. Don't talk to your husband about this past election and Bush
then, or a least try to do it as little as possible. I'm sure the subject depresses him, and that's why he doesn't want to hear about it. My husband feels the same way, so I make a very good effort to avoid talking about the Bush administration with him. He's basically heard it all before anyhow. Frankly, I start to feel very negative discussing politics lately too. I come on here to vent, if I need too, so that I don't have to depress my husband with political rants.
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