Do you realize something?

With the fraud thing, the W admin is potentially going to go down as the greatest villans in American history, and deservedly so.

This is a way better scenario than W simply losing the election.

If you think about it, the heavy amping of the rightwing vengeance/agenda, evangelist spooking ratched right up.

The dems managed to go to a whole new spook level that reaches people on a level outside of religion. Aside from any crazy evangelical beliefs, noone wants to know that they were lied to. Well, I guess there's always denial for the faithful.

There's two factions on this right now - the Bev and Randi homebrew camp, and the stuffy "pros" who have seemed to not really want to go after it at all. The faithful set it on fire and now the pros are being forced to get a position on this emerging iceberg.

So team Kerry needs to do death of 1000 coincidences. It will be hard to prove anything other than coincidence and "oops", but the volume of them in favor of W will be damning.

So we lose the election. Why not concede gracefully, wait out the storm on Fallujah and reappear with a simple "fact-finding" mission, call it to quiet bloggers and conspiracy theorists.....
geez, wonder if they'll stumble across anything significant? :tinfoilhat:

Please rejoin us in the real world and do something useful for the democratic party.

Really. How dare you say who is or isn't in the real world? Who are you to judge who is doing something useful?

How dare you use Clark in your username and then post something like that?

Right back into your corporate owned "real world".

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"Rejoin the real world"? You mean the "real world" where Bush won legitimately, the networks broadcast objectively, the war was started justifiably, and elections take place democratically?

Sorry, but on the planet where I'm from, that's called living in denial - and it's a far cry from being attached to the real world.

Perhaps it would suit you better to read a little more, and wean yourself from your party-line dependency before you start casting aspersions towards the selfless individuals who have taken it upon themselves to challenge this sham of an election like the Democratic party should have.

The Democratic party has been exploited, time and time again by Republicans, for its unwillingness to see anything but the optimistic "real world" that you suggest we should live in.

I'm not 100% sure whether there was massive fraud or not, but I certainly think it merits investigation.

Do you have any solid proof that there was no systematic tampering?

And I BELIEVE he won...

Watergate like scandals (which this is) move at a slower clip

It will take time, and if nothing else, WE NEED PAPER TRAILS
and anybody who beleives simply moving on is healthy (you know who you are) will only be defeated over and over again... until we face the stealing, they will continue to do it, little fascists taht they are...

We will NEVER win again if we don't get this corrupt system to be just.

The Republicans have managed themselves into such a position of complete immunity that the only way we will see justice administered is if there is a massive revolution from within their party.

NT!