Moderate Republicans should Speak Up about Their Hate For Religious Right

I have three friends who are moderate Republicans. All three have no problem with gay people, all three hate the Religious Right and yet none of them will speak up about their anger for Pat Robertson and all the nut cases. I have urged them over and over to write letters to the editor or just do something and they wont! They are more concerned with having a Republican in office no matter how much they differ on social issues and morality. They are sell OUTS! And I have been calling them on it! It's funny but they know they cant argue with me and I can tell it's eating them up inside! They are beginning to hate themselves!

So, if you have any Republican friends who are gay friendly you might want to rip them and make them feel like crap! Eventually they may decide they hate feeling like crap and change party's and voting habits.

...family,friends,classmates-Some from GA, NC, & CA-

They seem to think these people are not going to get certain demands granted

You are right-they really want to distance themselves from those people..."OH NO-THAT is NOT the Republican party-those guys are a fringe..." Uh- yeah. Sure.

It's all on the moderate Repubs to convinve Bush to sell out these Jerry Fawell type maniacs---we are not in power...

think Hitler was that bad either (and this goes for Moderate Democrats as well who think Bush cannot be that bad)

if moderate Republicans in Congress would join the Democrats in blocking far-right judicial appointments? Just imagine a bipartisan filibuster!

who was very dissapointed at the nutcases that came out of the woodwork for this election. He says he now regrets voting for Bush because of the religious fundamentalism that will be soon to come.

http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1099986939.shtml


"Think for yourself, question authority" is something a lot of us sucked in with our mothers' milk--and by the way, you know we kids who were born in the 1960s are now in our 30s and 40s and parents ourselves, right? A lot of us grew up being told to question authority, and a lot of that authority we now question is the left-wing orthodoxy of your generation, an orthodoxy many of us bought into as it was taught to us in school, in the books we read, and especially in the universities, not to mention in a lot of what we see out of Hollywood today.

We came to reject a lot of that orthodoxy as we got older and learned to think better for ourselves--not because we "embraced the establishment," but because we were questioning the establishment. You may laugh, but a whole lot of what's "questioning the establishment" to you seems like the establishment itself to a hell of a lot of people like me. Culturally, at least.

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You also, in your missive, speak of watching "Fahrenheit 9/11." I hope you're aware that that movie uses all the same propaganda techniques as used by the great Fascist and Stalinist film producers such as Goebbels and Eisenstein. Indeed, I must tell you that after I finally watched that film, my hands were literally shaking. Not because of my great love and devotion to Bush (which I'm sure the left-wing stereotypers would love to believe) but because I had not seen such concentrated hatred and dishonest propaganda put to film in my lifetime. By comparison, Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will seemed tame. (Yes, yes, parts of it were funny. Leni Riefenstahl had funny bits in her movies too. So what?)

None of this is because I don't think for myself and question authority, John. None of it's because I just want to obey and faithfully believe whatever Bush tells me. It's because I do think for myself and I question "authorities" who distribute disingenuous hate-propaganda, making themselves hundreds of millions of dollars throwing raw meat to rage-filled leftists, telling them what they want to hear regardless of whether there's any real honesty behind it. I also question university professors, Hollywood celebrities, and opportunistic politicians who want to tell me that "Bush lied" simply because it will help them win an election.

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Now I must tell you that, because I have taken my stance on the Iraq war, I was forced on this weblog to eventually require people to register before they could leave comments. Why? Because I got tired of being called a Nazi, a "Bush apologist," a right-wing extremist, a brown shirt, a fascist, a sellout, and a liar on a daily basis by those "open-minded" and "thoughtful" leftists who are apparently still part of your

tribe. My family has received death threats from angry leftists. I realized at some point that I could either take down the weblog completely, or I could start tossing out people who thought they had a right to abuse me and my family just because they didn't like my opinions.


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It reached a point for a lot of us that on election day, we were doing more than just saying "We want to re-elect George Bush." When we pulled that lever for Bush, we were also just plain saying "F*** YOU!"

That's a very interesting premise about a rejection of rejection of the Establishment.

What fascinates me is how easy it is to reject an ideology and yet have a philosophical or political vacuum to replace it. I could understand embracing rightwing ideology in its own right. I can't understand rejecting progressive political ideology and choosing * and what he represents only because it's diametrically opposed.

regardless of knowing bush lied or bush is a bad president, because if we dont shut up the right will vote for bush because they are saying fuck you to me

See, the operational definition of 'moderate Republican' during the past few years is: "If I had moral courage or moral sense I'd have to become a Democrat".

Your buddies are not 'moderate' Republicans, they're simply Republicans. A large part of being Republican is ethnic affirmative action for people of Anglo-Saxon heritage or Cuban upper class exile background (or a few other kinds, with nepotism a minor variant). You might be seeing some of that- wealth/favor division- taking priority over mere 'issues'.

spot on. people are talking ar ethe right gloating andhappy around you. they are not around me. exactly for your reason, they have won but in their hearts they know. they know about the voter intimidation, they probably know about the voter fraud, they know about 10 waits in line. they are going to hear about the fda doctor that tell women to read bible during pms that bush is installing.

by the time all said and done, their heads are going to hang in shame, and i am going to make sure of it

i am not talking the extreme, i am talking the regular middle of the road joes.

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...with having a Republican in office no matter how much they differ on social issues and morality."

See, now THIS is the kind of thinking I don't get. Why be so devoted to a party or candidate that doesn't represent your opinions?

For example - if Joseph Lieberman had won the Democratic nomination, I -- and a lot of others -- would have gone Green this year. It's simply NOT better to me to have a nominal Democrat in office if I consider his policies destructive. It's no difference to me how a candidate tags himself, so why do moderate Republicans hang on to a Republican label when the leader claiming that label clearly has no regard for those people's beliefs, and is even actively working to wipe them out as a political force?