An unstoppable machine--DU investigators>Air America>

BBV and other activists on the ground.

We are taking the fight to the mainstream Press with a force they cannot reckon with. The blatant labeling of a legitimate inquiry into voting irregularities as "conspiracy theory" by multiple mainstream Press sources is really just another fit of handwringing at their own impotence, and servility to the State. The gutless whores roll over like so many toys in a bathtub when the "lockdown" order on the voter fraud issue came down from Der Fuerher. They now stand in a position to only do one thing: block efforts to get the truth out about election 2004; the very opposite of their job. Keith Oberman of MSNBC is the exception to this and should be commended, but it was DU and other Internet political sites that forced the exposure of this fraud.

What is the chain of command from Der Fuerher to the media outlets? Hopefully, when the wreckage of the defeated fascist war machine is analyzed sometime in the future, we will find out how it all happened. Venturing a guess I'd say the CIA is hard at work warning the Press people that national security will be compromised if this or that is said: "We are at war, and must get behind the Fuerher", etc.

There are no major news media in the US that are not controlled by the CIA.

The above quote is from ex CIA Director William Colby who died in a mysterious boating accident after working to expose the Franklin coverup.

The attack on Fallujah was, no doubt in my mind, specifically timed by Bush to get greater control over the media by making the "national security" factor more, how would you say, relevant. This is fascism in full regalia, increase the carnage to terrorize your own population into submission. Bush is now totally focused, he is hell bent on spreading war and mayhem because he knows it is the only way he can hold on to power. The Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse.

It is better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.--Milton

Is the kind of stuff I like to read. Good work, Carl.

It is in our hands, the future of Democracy in America. If we don't save it, who will? Eventually the 'leaders' will get behind us, or they will be looking for work elsewhere, eh?

how Bushboy has gotten so much control over the Press. I know his old man has gotten this and that reporter fired. Here is something I had from research.


Ben Bradlee, then editor of the Washington Post, gave an account during an interview on C-Span of how George Bush tried to get him to fire journalist Mary McGrory.
According to Bradlee he was invited by Bush to the White House in early 1991 and the topic of the conversation was Mary McGrory, the 'lone dissenter' on the Post's staff, whose 'sprightly column' rankled Bush. She was the only one on the staff that said anything negative about Bush. Bradlee said:

They want 'em all. They don't want to have a handful of columnists to agree with them, they want 100. If you give them 100 they want two hundred. (Parry, Fooling America, pp.118)

Note: Robert Parry himself was fired from Newsweek magazine after Poppy Bush paid a visit to the editor. Parry broke the Iran-Contra story.

The Washington Post, and the country for that matter, had gone a long way down hill since Watergate, Deepthroat and 'Woodstein' where sharp criticism of Nixon's assault on democracy had profound effect. What would have been the reaction from the public and the press if such an outrageous demand was placed on Bradlee back then? Why didn't this meeting with Bush come out earlier? Had Bush instilled a sense of fear in Bradley as he had Dan Rather after his diatribe against Bush before the 1988 election and by implication the press in general? How many other people in the news were muscled by Bush and are out their waiting to tell their story?
The head of the House Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs Committe, Henry Gonzalez included as part of his report on the BNL scandal that columnist Jack Anderson had "round the clock surveillance for a month" by the likes of G. Gordon Liddy. In this same report he related a bizarre encounter he had with ex-CIA agent E. Howard Hunt of Watergate fame:

The only thing I know about E. Howard Hunt was two years ago in July, in fact July 14, I go back to my district every weekend, and I came in that Saturday morning. I arrived at the San Antonio Airport, and there was a couple there that used to be in my district and move to a small town up in what we call the hill country.

They recognized me and said, " Oh, Congressmen. How are you? We are so glad to see you."

I saluted them and addressed them. I was leaving when this individual comes up. I had never met him before, but, from his pictures, I could tell that what he said was true.
He said: "You are Congressman Gonzalez?...Well I am E.Howard, and you are nothing but a ****" and he used a bad word.
Well I had two little bags I was carrying, very small so I just dropped them. I noticed he had a shoulder holster with a pistol. It was obvious.
So I said: " Mister, since you want to use sailors' language, here is what I think of you." Tnen I used some choice words.
I said: "Let me tell you something else. You take one step forward closer to me or you make a move for the gun in your shoulder holster, and I will swear to you I will take it from you and in self defense I will kill you with it."
He looked at me startled, turned around, and walked away. I picked up my bags and walked out of the airport.
(Cong.record. House pp.8352, 9/14/92)

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In any event, if Nader and Cobb are at the edges, questions about Ohio moved back into the mainstream yesterday with another cogent article in The Cincinnati Enquirer. The rationale for the bizarre “lockdown” of the vote-counting venue in Warren County on election night suddenly broke down when it was contradicted by spokespersons from the FBI and Ohio’s primary homeland security official.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/


3 weeks before the election memos from Homeland Security were sent out statewide


but Homeland Security says it knows nothing!!!!

WHERE ARE THE MEMOS?

WHO SENT THEM?

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AMY GOODMAN: Can you summarize your piece in today's Cincinnati Enquirer?

ERICA SOLVIG: Well, the story that ran today is reiterating the County Commissioner’s stance of Homeland Security concerns. They say, as you have already mentioned, that the county was facing a terrorist threat that ranked 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. We talked to several officials with the homeland security department as well as the FBI. They knew of no increased terrorism concerns in Warren County in particular, and just, again, raising the continuing concerns regarding Homeland Security and being locked out of the building. The primary focus of all of the articles has been on, you know, the First Amendment issues and the open government issues that are raised when the public and the media are locked out of the process.

AMY GOODMAN: You have interviewed a number of people for your pieces; among them was a news director at a local TV station?

ERICA SOLVIG: That's correct.

AMY GOODMAN: What did he say?

ERICA SOLVIG: He called this a red herring. Bob Moreford, the News Director at channel 9, CWPO TV, the ABC affiliate here said he had never seen anything like it, and WCPO as well as the Associated Press and the Inquirer all received the same response when they tried to get into the building on election night, and that was being locked out. Moreford said that he considered it a red herring. He continued to say, “That’s something that's put up when you don't know what else to put up to keep us out.”

AMY GOODMAN: We're taking a look at Keith Olbermann's blog from MSNBC. He was quoting the statement given out by Warren County Commissioner Pat South to MSNBC. You have also been quoting her a great deal. It's quite a remarkable quote. It says, “About three weeks prior to elections, our emergency services department had been receiving quite a few pieces of correspondence from the office of Homeland Security on the upcoming elections. These memos were sent out statewide, not just to Warren County, and they included a lot of planning tools and resources to use for Election Day security.” Pat South went on to say, “In a face-to-face meeting between the FBI and our director of Emergency Services, we were informed that on a scale from 1 to 10, the tri-state area of southwest Ohio was ranked at a high 8 to a low 9, in terms of security risk. Warren County in particular was rated at 10, 10 being the top highest risk. Pursuant to the Ohio-revised code, we followed the law to the letter that basically says no one is allowed within 100 feet of a polling place except for voters, and that after the polls closed, the only people allowed in the Board of Elections area where votes are being counted are the Board of Election members, judges, clerks, poll challengers, police, and that no one other than those people can be there while tabulation is taking place.” And yet, Erica Solvig, now the Department of Homeland Security and FBI are denying that they ever talked about a security risk here?

ERICA SOLVIG: They're saying that they were not aware of any increased security risk in Warren County on Election Day. The county has declined to give us the agent's name who told them this, because they haven't talked to this agent - this is an FBI agent - anytime recently. But the Homeland Security officials that we have talked to in the area, as well as the FBI, are unaware of any increased security risk on Election Day. Again, the primary concern was being locked out of a public building on a night when the entire nation was watching, waiting for the results.

AMY GOODMAN: Is Warren County, Ohio, republican or democrat?

ERICA SOLVIG: It is Republican, but politics aside this was an unprecedented action on their part. As far as we know and as far as the Ohio Secretary of State's office knows this is the only county in the state that locked the public out of the building.

AMY GOODMAN: One more time, as you point out in today's Cincinnati Inquirer piece, Pat South the commissioner describes the FBI agent coming to her?

ERICA SOLVIG: The FBI agent apparently spoke with some county officials who then relayed the information to the commissioners. He actually spoke directly to Frank Young, who is quoted in the article as well.

more
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1536254

people. I think a percentage of the press are blatantly corrupt and jaded people who are probably goldmines for blackmail material. Otherwise, are they must threaten the balance of them.

I personally am so creeped out by the CIA and FBI. I can't imagine the mindset of the person who would elect to join these organizations. You must be willing to do a lot of crap to rise to a position of power in that system and the seduction to accrue and protect power must be terrific.

"The attack on Fallujah was, no doubt in my mind, specifically timed by Bush to get greater control over the media by making the "national security" factor more, how would you say, relevant."

Internet news and information sharing is the only mechanism the "free world" has that can stop this creeping totalitarian fascism.

We should be prepared to fight our government to our deaths to keep the INTERNET independant from state control.

Seems like "Internet Free America" would be a good news organization to build and invest in?

-85%

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AP's leader says Internet represents the future of news

Posted on Sat, Nov. 13, 2004


AP's leader says Internet represents the future of news

ROBERT JABLON
Associated Press


LOS ANGELES - The Internet will change the way news is provided to the world by giving consumers the power to demand and receive any sports score, analysis or breaking story instantly, the head of the world's largest news organization said.

Newspapers, TV broadcasts and even fancy Web pages will have less meaning as people use Web-surfing programs and recording devices to pick and choose items from various providers, dictating exactly what news they want, when they want it and on which electronic devices they want to receive it, said Tom Curley, president and chief executive officer of The Associated Press.

In the world of personalized news, "the content comes to you; you don't have to come to the content," Curley said Friday. "So, get ready for everything to be 'Googled,' 'deep-linked' or "Tivo-ized.'"

Even though newspapers and TV are losing readers and viewers, there is a vast market of "news enthusiasts" on the Internet that can be reached if old-style media are willing to make some changes, Curley told the Online News Association conference Friday in Hollywood.
(snip)

A recent study that found 29 percent of Internet users - about 43 million people - go online to get news three or more times per week, Curley said.
(snip/...)

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"LOS ANGELES - The Internet will change the way news is provided to the world by giving consumers the power to demand and receive any sports score, analysis or breaking story instantly, the head of the world's largest news organization said."

Wrong. The internet will change news by allowing the common man, anywhere, at any time, to provide the news. Unfiltered. Uncensored. Supported by video from their phone camera or other such small consumer electronics. The common man will report the news that the "news" won't report- which will increasingly become less and less "news" (to the "mainstream" media") and more and more of a threat.

The "mainstream" media goes out of its way to avoid "upsetting" stories that challenge the status quo. The BBV Situation- yes, capital 'S'- is a prime example. Despite known securiy holes, the potential to be hacked, and the suspiciously questionable vote totals, the "mainstream" media is avoiding this issue like the plague, even going to the extent of trying to discredit the very same internet this article above fawns upon.

They want the internet "their way", and that's why they will lose this fight: the internet is inherently uncontrollable by any one influence. It's almost a living thing in its constantly changing and adaptive nature. No matter how hard they try, more and more people are turning to the internet for their news, and as they see the difference, the "mainstream" media will become more and more irrelevant.

I stopped getting my news from television and newspapers quite some time ago and I'm more informed about the world around me than I've ever been. Our "mainstream" media, for me at least, has completely failed its mission.

What would you recomend as far as subscribing to magazines or newspapers?
I want spmething WAYYYY left of center!

and what I like about it is that if you are wrong or inaccurate in your reporting you are taken to task for it. Bloggers and DU'ers don't have the luxury of writing BS without others being able to comment.

It becomes increasingly apparent that their REAL mission was NEVER to have a truly informed citizenry--but a citizenry that knew what those who wield the levers of power WANTED them to know. Their REAL mission has always been to create a "reality bubble"--a subjective sense of social self/world--that allowed the power brokers to remain in control. See my sig: "Whoever controls your perception of reality controls you." Whatever you believe to be TRUE will determine your actions in the world. If you believe * was fairly elected in 2000, if you believe the 'official story' of 9/11, if you believe there were WMD in Iraq, if you believe Sadam had a hand in 9/11, if you believe issues of 'morality' determined the votes in this past election (and so forth), if you BELIEVE these things to be true, then anyone who counters or questions these beliefs is perceived as a kind of threat. A threat to what? A threat to your sense of 'self' in the 'world' -- what I call the self/world matrix that is the substance of the media manipulated 'reality bubble.'

What we need to understand more clearly is what it is that 'snaps people out of it'--what BREAKS the media trance for ordinary people. And we need to ask the question, WHAT NEXT? This is a question we need to seriously consider. What is the alternative to the media driven reality bubble?

...either I'm too hungover today, or you are all on fire. I find great satisfaction in watcing the mainstream media panic as their stranglehold on information is wrenched away from their hands. A "lockdown" may have worked in the past, with a limited number of outlets to target, but it's impossible to lockdown those on the internets.

I'm with you, I don't read papers or watch news on TV anymore. News organizations like to cite these trends as evidence that the younger generation is stupid and uninformed. I believe it's just evidence that they have "completely failed mission," as you point out.

...great post. I agree with you fully. Now watch your back ;)

(shit, I guess I'll have to watch mine too :( )

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