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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:46 PM
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Are they teaching pseudoscience in your neighborhood's School?
It has recently became perfectly fine to teach 'intelligent design' in some schools. "The Universe is too complex to have been created by itself, so therefore it must have been created by a higher power" or the variant (for evolution) "Life is too complex for it to have just evolved, so therefore it must have been created by a higher power". This 'intelligent design' is pseudoscience, plain and simple.

What is pseudoscience? Pseudoscience is not science, but rather personal beliefs incorporated with science, education, etc. For example Eugenics is a pseudoscience, that is bunch of people who were already racist or believed they were superior to another group of people come together and put forth fake studies to make it look as though other groups are inferior. The Pioneer Fund is a good example of a Eugenics group.

"(Un)Intelligent Design" is also a pseudoscience. However this pseudoscience will be force fed to some children. This time a bunch of Fundamentalists have come together and imposed their religious beliefs into school systems where quite obviously not everyone believes the same things they do.

If you live somewhere where some people propose to teach "intelligent design", please act to stop them. This fake science called "intelligent design" can only aid a Theocracy.
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alevensalor Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:48 PM
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1. I stopped buying the 'intelligent design' theory
when I found out our eyes are put together upside-down and backwards.

~A!
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:27 PM
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11. don't forget male nipples
why I ask WHY?????
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:50 PM
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2. Not just pseudoscience
but thinly veiled dogma. I have no problem with dogma, with faith, with belief, but those things do not belong in a science class.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:51 PM
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3. Which is more complex
Accepting the complexity of the Universe as it is or adding another layer of Complexity by saying there is a super duper God out there behind the scenes. Occam's Razor anyone.
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dogmastomper Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:55 PM
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4. I grew up in Louisiana...
in the PUBLIC school that I went to (this was in the late 80's/early 90's) we had to stand while some cheerleader prayed over the intercom for our school to win football games and recite the pledge. In Biology, my Bio teacher said "even though I don't believe in evolution I have to teach you the basic elements of it, but none of it is true. I believe in creationism."
Also, the colors red and black were banned when i was in tenth grade because they were satanic.

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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:14 PM
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8. Yikes!
Nuns at my school purveyed a simple and elegant interpretation of Papal interpretation: God made all including all fossils and evolution! Worked for me though I experienced Chapel ever school day, Confession on Saturday and Mass on Sunday, I loved the ceremony of the church.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:58 PM
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5. Here in NY if someone tried to teach that crap in public school
they would be run out of town on a rail.

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Getchasome Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:04 PM
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6. Then who or what created God?
The intelligent design argument falls apart under it's own logic. If the universe is too complex to have just happened so it must have had an intelligent designer, then who created God? God must be even more complex than what he created, so who is his creator? If they say, "Well, god was always there." Then why is it such a leap to just save a step and say the Universe was always there, there's no need for a bigger answer.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:09 PM
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7. I would have to quit paying my school taxes. n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:18 PM
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9. Yep
I was shocked to find out that creationism is "taught" in my local high school biology class. I say "taught" because the teachers are currently just mentioning it as a 'theory' and that they don't really feel competent to actually teach it. I guess that satisfies the fundies somewhat. Passing over it would change if they ever got a real fundie type for science, we already have a few of them teaching history, of all things. I don't know how it happened, but it's something I'm going to start working to change this year, now that I know.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:21 PM
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10. Not the public shools. Most of the teachers are liberal.
However, we have more Christian schools in my area than public ones, so I'm sure those kids are being well indoctrinated with fantasy as science.
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