Saving Democracy SUCKS! I need $35K RIGHT NOW -- Anybody here rich?

We are having an "issue" with the Nader folks; they want to "know" the funds for the New Hampshire recount -- but they are leery about taking money from either a 527 (HelpAmericaRecount.org) or a 501(c) or any other combination of numbers and letters such that I'm getting REALLY pissed off -- they are also being cagey about how much money they have received thus far in donations, and there is an issue about the Trust that was put together as a work around -- you folks have NO IDEA how much of a pain this whole thing has been --

AND THE DEMOCRATS WITH THEIR $53 MILLION ARE NO WHERE TO BE FOUND!!!

So, bottom line, I need someone to write a check for $35,000 to the Ralph Nader campaign RIGHT NOW -- the check can be held for ten days while donations are being solicited to the campaign, and I am confident the money can and will be raised -- but these people want "proof" they are going to be covered -- SO I'M ASKING --

Anybody here RICH? Anyone got that kind of money laying around? I offered to put a lien on my house, and my husband flat out told me he would divorce me if I did it -- we don't have $35K lying around --

HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP -- PM ME, PLEASE!!! I am SO FRUSTRATED AT THE MOMENT!!!

Ask him.

Unless he's expecting them to go up higher... wait... never mind.

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I don't even have a job! (I am sending out more resumes Monday).

What about Soros?

Why is Nader being stubborn?

They are collecting for recounts

Any idea how to get hold of Soros?

<http://www.soros.org/>

<http://www.soros.org/about/bios/a_soros>

(Put your money where your mouth is.)

I wonder if Ross Perot would donate? Nah....scratch that

somebody step up and help Ida!

they accepted? This sounds very fishy.

Oh Ida. Damn. No unfortunately I dont have 35K***

Have you talked directly with the Democratic party? THis makes me sick.

I would contact Bev Harris and let her know that the Democratic party is not helping at all. Im sure someone from Blackbox is monitoring the website.

I call bulls*** on the Nader campaign. They are stalling for some reason and it doesnt make sense.

I can't get through to them today.

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Let me rephrase that -- they HAVE been useless! I think they are so busy gearing up for "why did we fail" that they didn't bother to notice THEY DIDN'T FAIL. Assholes. (I'm in a mood at the moment. I'll apologize to them later, when I don't find them completely useless!) ARGH!

I swear to god the Democratic party is starting to chafe my ass something serious!

he had $99,000 in funds to buy that O'Reilly tape, maybe he'd put up the money temporarily for you.

Talk line: 866-303-2270

The Randi Rhodes Show

Office Line: 646-274-3681



I just posted your thread on pres board.

Also try DemocracyForAmerica (Howard Dean's organization) -- or Joe Trippi. Or Kos.

He's a good guy, and he's also a journalist. But its a nice thought.

I've already shelled out more than I could afford to the DNC. I even gave more to BBV, Help America Recount, etc. Why would Ralph take money from Repubs and not Help America Recount?

If you're still having problems, I could throw in a little bit if you set up some kind of PayPal account. What more do I have to lose? :shrug:

shy about showing what has already been contributed by us in this fund for exactly this. i so dont trust the man

not that i have those funds but just in response to the not trusting nader.

but i am not giving 35k to anyone for anything.

3 people write a check for 10k and one person for 5k

i would think that would be easy, but where is the guarentee. and not in anyway suggesting i would do it. just exploring thought. i owuld think at this point for what you share about nader, and how easy it would be for him to do that, and his playing games with this, i think i am more to, i dont htink he is serious, i would be looking a different direction than depending on this man. nada from kerry? i just dont believe nader

to Nader that were "held" by the lawyer while the donations came into the campaign, so they wouldn't have to be used. There has been much dancing around getting that done, however, and the "big donors" are understandably leery about the whole thing. I'm leery about the whole thing! I just want my frickin' recount! :mad:

if those with plenty of money and 35k wont really hurt them dont trust him, then well............i cant either. but can donate to fund

handing out with JK before the coupII. Bruce, Susan Sarandon, Ben affleck, etc. wtf? Where are they now?

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during the election. Are they allowed to donate the money?

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$35K is a little beyond me, but Moore might be more than willing to write the check.

They just need more money, so they are a) committed to doing it, and b) needing the money ASAP. I'm getting so frustrated with this nonsense, its not even funny -- I'm trying to get through to the Randi Rhodes people -- if anyone else can do it, please tell them to send money to www.votenader.org and specify its for the RECOUNT!

The first $2K is a deposit, the rest is going to cost $35K+ and that is where the confusion keeps coming in because they are worried about taking money from the wrong places --

Maybe you need to contact him to put a plea out on the air. Randi said yesterday that she was taking the day off today, which would mean she won't be around until Monday.

they have a few days to file.

And specified it was for the recount. If we don't come up with more in the next couple of days I can do a little more.....

Come on people -even if you can't donate $35,000, you can donate something. There's over 50,000 people on this site - it only takes 7000 people to donate $5 each today and it's covered.

after you donate - keep it kicked until it reaches $35,000.

We can do it!

This is easier than being questioned by the FBI for unamerican activities which is what is coming for us if we don't reverse this election.

I can't contribute anymore unless I want to suffer.

I don't understand these rich folks wanting money from poor folks...I just don't get it, especially when the DNC already took our money for this very thing.

She donated $1 million to the fund for the families, and then publicly spoke out about the celebs "asking the peasants for pennies" in her words. I'm appalled these celebs are not opening up their wallets.

And Angelina Jolie is involved in charities in several countries, I heard her say the other day that she had a fund-raising party for victims of land-mines in Cambodia, she spent $2000 hosting the party and raised $4000. She said "I know what kind of money these people make, I know what I make, so now I just give my own money" instead of trying to raise it through charity. I have always thougt it was funny how these folks pay $500 to $1000 for a plate at a charity ball and show up in a $20,000 gown dripping in a million bucks worth of jewels.

I can't give anything 'til monday when my check goes through, credit cards are maxed out.

He should still have all the money he took from the GOP to get him on the ballot in the first place

democracy to work. First the DNC, then the ACLU, then BBV, then Alliance for Democracy, now Nader. This is getting ridiculous. Can we just merge all this money to a common recount fund. Rules are you get the recount and you can have some of the money. I'll give to Nader but really, this is maddening.

This is absolutely insane. I just want a frickin' recount, but apparently there is disagreement about how the campaign finance laws work, and where you can get money from, and who has to pay for it, and what 527s can give for, and what 501c(1-4)s can do, and JUST RECOUNT THE DAMN BALLOTS!!! ARGH!!!

Okay, I'm calming down. But this is still STUPID. :(

We were promised by the DNC that they had this covered. I sent money specifically for those 10,000 lawyers. Why do I feel betrayed and abandoned?

AAARRRGGGHHH!

All I want to know is the truth. If we're wrong about voter fraud, so be it, but at least we need to have a look. Extremely hackable machines owned by fundamentalist Christian Republicans = ZERO TRUST.

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Considering all that money the dems raised for recounts, 35K is nothing... they should release it pronto.

Pisses me off that you can't get anything done around here unless yr rich.

Looking at AAR's site I see a phone number for their corporate offices: 1-646-274-4900.
It looks like Randi's show is a "best of" today but maybe they could make some kind of plea for money during it.
Does Bev have any kind of media contacts? Can she get in touch with people like Keith Olberman or some rich celebrity like Michael Moore?

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Everybody, get going.

Nader is getting on my last nerve.

Isn't there some way we could set some collateral against this about?

I know we're tired and tapped out, folks. Really, I do. I'm on disability and I'm going into debt to do this. What more do you have to lose?

Also, Ida, check in with Randi Rhodes if you can. Tell her you're aggravated, too, but hey, dem's da berries. :shrug:

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no credit card debt, only consumption debt--phone, heat, electricity, food, petrol, insurance... my car could use some brake work and an engine flush. A cheap date, I am, LOL.

Hi Ida,
Okay, is there a way Nader could put on his site, where they are at for collecting the $35,000.00 As reading the previous posts, we are all so strapped for $$$. You bet I will donate $$ for it, but it would be so helpful to see how their fund raiser is going for the needed $35,000.00

Do I understand then, that Nader will write the check for $35,000.00, then it is up to all concerned to donate to the cause?

Also, what if one of us let Olbermann know about this, couldn't he donate on his own???

NM Freedom

What about those rich movie stars who came out to vote for Kerry? I can't believe that they are so stuck on memorizing their lines that they are completely unaware of all of this. If you are a movie star reading this, take note: the little people like us, little Democrats, pay good money to make you totally rich. Now it is your turn to put up a little money. Please help to fund this investigation into the election. Thanks.

Might he be interested in helping?

Come on guys, this is a helluva lot more important than Scott Peterson

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God Bless This Person -- Details to Follow -- YEAH!!!

Give them a hug from me!

For all of your work on this.

And to the someone: THANK YOU!

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Ditto - Hugs to them! Awesome!
NM Freedom

I'm glad it worked out. I was going to finish reading this thread and donate AGAIN!

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Now let the house of cards begin to fall!!!

Does that mean you don't need my donation Ida?

Many of us were sweating with you there for awhile. Thank you for what you are doing, Ida!

Ladies and gentlemen, behold a great American. Thank you for your patience and hard work and for perservering through your enormous frustrations in behalf of our country. IdaBriggs, you get the blue ribbon from me today!

I know how passionate and hard you have worked, but I wondered why Nader did not use his own money in the first place. Seriously.

If so, I think we've found a least one candidate.

Thanks IdaBriggs, for all your hard work !!!

I'm so glad someone out there with big deep pockets is listening to us little guys out here. I was literally going crazy trying to figure out which bills I could put off for another week.
Man, I hope this really happens now and we get the recount.

Is there anywhere we can donate by paypal?

I would like to chuck in $30 but it would be much easier to do it that way as I have no CC.

www.votenader.org -- give it a try! And THANK YOU!!! :) Best, Ida

Hey Ida,

Congrats BTW.. still trying to make my contribution. It may prove hard though.

On the Nader Site
-- " I am a United States citizen or a permanent resident alien."

Can't really tick this box. Plus they do not in fact have a paypal.com account. Perhaps someone trustworthy who does can collect some money on your behalf.. or you could get someone clued up in your campaign to set up one specifically (it costs nothing and takes about 15 mins). I expect that the need for money is going to continue and paypal is very accessible and is used by lots of net progressives to make charitible payments.

A private donor came forward and the funding is assured.

She funded it. It's done.

Bev Harris
Black Box Voting
Executive Director

And I'll donate on Monday to help back her up, because that's when my credit card cutoff date is.

Thanks, Ida. Thanks, Bev. Thanks, God :)

Bless you all.