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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:52 PM
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Ashcroft: judges are traitors

Our outgoing AG is beneath contempt. This is nothing but preemptively blaming Constitution-abiding judges for the next attack.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal judges are jeopardizing national security by issuing rulings contradictory to President Bush's decisions on America's obligations under international treaties and agreements, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Friday.
In his first remarks since his resignation was announced, Ashcroft forcefully denounced what he called “a profoundly disturbing trend” among some judges to interfere in the president's constitutional authority to make decisions during war.
“The danger I see here is that intrusive judicial oversight and second-guessing of presidential determinations in these critical areas can put at risk the very security of our nation in a time of war,” Ashcroft said in a speech to the Federalist Society, a conservative lawyers' group.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:54 PM
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1. i thought he said we were safe now?
actually i think ashcroft is looney tunes.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:54 PM
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2. God forbid judges should do their job and interpret the Constitution
correctly. How dare they!!!!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:56 PM
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3. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier....
just so long as I'm the dictator."
--President-Elect George W. Bush, CNN News, Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET

Who needs traitorous, ACTIVIST judges anyhow?
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:57 PM
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4. do you have a link for this?
I'd love to post it on another forum.
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MaineYooper Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:58 PM
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5. unfreaking believable
Ashcroft falls into that special category of people who are so mind-numbingly stupid that they think they're smarter than the rest of us.

Good bloody riddance. (Though Gonzalez's performance wrt the justification of torture doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he'll be much of an improvement.)
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:03 PM
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6. Shut the Cheney up, you Cheneying jackass!!!!!!
n/t
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:12 PM
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7. he's nuttier
then a shit house rat
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:12 PM
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8. Glad he's going
but I think Gonzales is going to be worse.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:13 PM
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9. I posted this on the other thread on GD about this! DAMN!!!!!!
Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression
Volume I Chapter VII
Means Used by the Nazi Conspiractors in Gaining Control of the German State

The Nazi conspirators restricted the independence of the judiciary and rendered it subservient to their ends. The independence of judges, before the Nazi regime, was guaranteed by the Weimar Constitution. The fundamental principle was stated briefly in Article 102: "Judges are independent and subject only to the law."

Article 104 contained a safeguard against the arbitrary removal or suspension of judges, while Article 105 prohibited "exceptional courts". The fundamental rights of the individual are set out in Article 109 and include equality before the law.

Like all other public officials, German judges who failed to meet Nazi racial and political requirements became the subject of a wide-spread purge. Non-Aryans, political opponents of the Nazis, and all persons suspected of antagonism to the aims of the Party were summarily removed (2967-PS). The provisions of the Law for the Restoration of Professional Civil Service of 7 April 1933 applied to all judges. This was declared expressly in the third regulation for the administration of the law.

To make certain that cases with political ramifications would be dealt with acceptably and in conformity with Party principles, the Nazis granted designated areas of criminal jurisdiction to the so-called Special Courts (Sondergerhte). These constituted a new system of special criminal courts, independent of the regular judiciary and directly subservient to the Party (2076-PS). A later decree considerably broadened the jurisdiction of these -courts. More...

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-07-mea...

The Nazis are here!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:34 PM
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10. We need to keep this kicked up!
These people are CRAZY!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:38 PM
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11. Patriotic Americans: Asscrack is a traitor
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:43 PM
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12. I guess the founding fathers are traitors, then
Seeing as how the founding fathers set things up this way on purpose so that we couldn't have dictators like Bush take over.

Go soar your fucking eagle, Ashcroft. Sing it in the shower.

You couldn't beat a dead man in an election, so shut the fuck up
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:36 AM
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13. I'll bet the Eagle is sore!
After this fake election! The Nazis are not coming, they are here!
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:38 AM
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14. LOL
But sore where?

:wow:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:43 AM
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15. I'd tell you butt......
I'd get in Twouble! We need to donate to the American Eagle Red A$$ Fund(AERAF)ASAP!

These people who are running our government, want to set the clock back to: GERMANY 1934!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:54 AM
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16. Speaking of Eagles...
How far can the "Eagle Soar" without a left wing?

These people are out to bring America down!
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