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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:07 PM
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WHY do conservatives think I am such a bad person?
Yes, I support equal rights for gays and I don't care much for church. But:

I'm a longtime blood donor - over 20 gallons
I've sent countless care packages to the troops
I sent 150 beanie babies to the Iraqi children
I donate lots to charity
I adopt a senior and a child every Christmas
I support the local food pantry and send clothes to Goodwill
I would never, ever turn down someone who needed help
I care about people who are poor, unemployed, have no health insurance
I'm a veteran who has WORKED MY ASS OFF.

WHY do they think I am IMMORAL??????
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:08 PM
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1. projection, my dear
that's pretty much it.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:11 PM
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8. i'll add: envy. i think some who are trapped in certain mindsets
secretly long to be freed, and therefore envy those whot hey believe are...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:08 PM
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2. because you dont have a problem with two guys who love each other
and you want to help poor children through welfare.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:08 PM
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3. What do you care what Satan-worshippers think? I mean, really?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:09 PM
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4. cuz you're not properly
outraged over the buttsex.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:10 PM
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7. LOL...............Dookus
I'm afraid it really may simply come down to that simple fact. :o
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:09 PM
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5. excellent question, one I ask myself frequently
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 03:13 PM by Bertha Venation
I am gay, of course, so I don't wonder quite so much as straight folk do. No morality or just plain acts of human kindness will ever be enough to make up for that, in their eyes.

I can tell you one thing I know from experience: at least for the fundy evangelical Christians among them, they think we're immoral because we haven't accepted Christ as our personal Savior.

No shit. That's why. That's it in a nutshell.

As to the non-fundy conservatives, who knows.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:12 PM
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9. notice how I avoided using the term "gay rights"
I don't care much for that because there's really no rights gays want that us straights kinda already take for granted.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:22 PM
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18. Wish everyone would stop saying "GAY RIGHTS" and start saying
"EQUAL RIGHTS FOR GAYS"
:yourock:
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:10 PM
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6. You pinko commie
atheist who has'nt accepted Jeebus. You are going to hell. /off
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:21 PM
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17. when I see scenes in Iraq and Sudan
I am reminded that hell DOES exist - right here on Earth. :(
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:14 PM
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10. You sound like a great person.
Don't worry about them, we'll love you here! :grouphug:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:16 PM
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12. I'm just so sick about hearing about their "superior morals"
WE DUERS - we DEMOCRATS - ARE GOOD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:15 PM
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11. You don't march in lock step and you don't support the Fuhrer.
None of the good you do would ever matter.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:18 PM
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13. because
you don't use God to justify your fears and hatreds. OOOOH-evil stuff!!!!!!!!!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:18 PM
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14. Simple - because you're not saved
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Unstuck In Time Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:20 PM
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15. Because conservatives need an enemy
They have no real ideals of their own. Instead they have to be "against" something, or imagine they are being attacked by some outside force.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:21 PM
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16. Conservatives can't handle the truth.
So anyone who isn't fearful of facts and figures like yourself is immoral.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:24 PM
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19. You're insufficiently judgmental.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 03:24 PM by FuzzySlippers
Doing good has nothing to do with being a good person. You need to be hating and condemning others.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:27 PM
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20. I'm not allowed to donate blood
despite the fact that the Blood Donor clinics are screaming for volunteers.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:29 PM
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21. all those questions they ask, TrogL
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 03:30 PM by Skittles
countless ones about gay sex but not ONCE do they ask ME "DO YOU HAVE UNSAFE SEX WITH MULITPLE PARTNERS?". Not that I DO but the fact that THEY DON'T ASK ME THAT speaks VOLUMES.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:32 PM
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23. They asked me
And the unsafe sex was 30 years ago. And I wasn't able to donate blood either.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:31 PM
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22. Aw geez, you're an enabler!!
If you stopped helpin' all those lazy assed people, they'd get off their butts and work for themselves. Besides, you don't do any of that stuff because you care, you do that stuff so you can pretend you're better than everybody else. Take your high and mighty attitude back to the city where you came from.

(Yes, they really do think that)
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:33 PM
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24. Because obviously you are way cooler than them.
Why would they help people? We're all supposed to stand on our own right? We don't need blood donors, people should all have some of their own blood stored up just in case.

As for those lonely seniors at Christmas, they should have had bigger families...

Man, being one of "them" is really hard. Damn.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:37 PM
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25. lol........rocky
a conservative I work with told me he thinks donating blood is stupid - says if anyone in his family needs blood THEN he would donate - for them. I am speechless when confronted with such utter ignorance. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:41 PM
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26. I don't know. Are you a godless freedom-hater?
That could be it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:42 PM
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:43 PM
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28. Sounds like you have the moral values they claim to have but
are sorely lacking. Actions speak louder than words. Pity they don't get that.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:44 PM
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29. Because you think for yourself (eom)
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:46 PM
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30. Ack, my first post rubbed against a troll. I think I need a shower.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:51 PM
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31. "dancing on the caskets of dead soldiers"
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 03:52 PM by Skittles
*shakes head* I've asked the mods to please delete that piece of garbage from this thread

on edit - man, the DU MODS ROCK!!!!!
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:52 PM
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32. Good, I was being sarcastic for the record.....
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 03:52 PM by dean_dem
Nothing like a little freeper trolling to kill an otherwise funny comment.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:54 PM
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33. welcome to the DU, dean_dem
about time you got here :hi:
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:59 PM
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34. Unless you blindly support Shrubhead, use the Bible as a WMD,
whine about taxes, and hate almost everyone, you are considered a godless commie liberal pinko faggot who needs to go to jail or be deported. There is no difference in these peoples' eyes between Joe Lieberman and Joe Stalin. Everyone left of the John Birch Society is a devil worshipping, bra burning eggheaded elitist who wants to strip Americans of their guns, churches and bibles. The Republican Righteous Right is moving further and further right, and the only people who are moving that way faster are the spineless jellyfish leaders of the democratic party that appease them.
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:03 PM
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35. Let me take you through the thought process...
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 04:04 PM by giant_robot
gay rights and lax attitude towards church = liberal
liberal = immoral

therefore you are immoral Q.E.D.

The thought process doesn't go any deeper than that.

edit: spelling. Thinking like them makes me stupid.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:09 PM
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36. Well, it might be because you're kicking their asses all the time
*ducking, fleeing*:evilgrin:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 05:43 PM
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37. I WILL KICK YOUR ASS MADHOUND
:D
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 05:47 PM
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38. Oh you don't know how long I've been waiting to hear those words from you
One just doesn't feel like they really belong to DU until they've had a Skittles ass kicking. Thank you, thank you so much!:spank::bounce::evilgrin:
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Nosmo King Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 05:59 PM
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40. it's the 21st century vampire syndrome!
Modern man is far too sophisticated to be terrified of ghosties and ghoulies and things that go bump in the night (thank you Robert Burns!)

These days, man has to fear the things he just doesn't encounter everyday. Like Gay people at a NASCAR event. The grand scope of life experiences for the uber-righteous doesn't extend to the more cosmopolitan aspects of modernity. That's why "evil" also applies to France, the Ivy League, Manhattan, NPR, homosexuality, Universalist Unitarians, vegans and documentary film!

All the new right has to do is look beyond the Wal-Mart parking lot, and life's rich pageant will be at their feet.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 05:52 PM
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39. Because they are regressive
Not conservative.
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chispa Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 06:04 PM
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41. Can't understand it
I'm new to DU, but not to the party, have just retired, and find myself classified as an 'evangelical'. For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think of you as immoral. That's a bunch of hooey. From your description you would seem to embody the very principles that our party, the party of FDR & JFK, showed in their time as leaders of our country. A lot (maybe even most) of people who would call themselves 'christian' (& especially other 'evangelicals') take it upon themselves to make value judgments about other people...the height of hypocrisy! I guess my stance to those types of people would be just to say to them "stuff it". (apologize for my lack of tact)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:25 PM
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42. HOWDY CHISPA
WELCOME TO THE DU!!! :hi:
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chispa Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:25 PM
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56. THANKS, SKITTLES
Everyone has been so welcoming....very encouraging for a just-retired-fellow with a lot of time on his hands!
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:26 PM
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43. They are the "NAUGHTY BITS" voters!
Their most-favored issue is anything having to do with anyone else's NAUGHTY BITS.

Tucker
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:28 PM
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44. Because they have to deny "the enemy's" humanity.
By the way, Skittles, are you married? ;)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:03 PM
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46. nope, not married
been dating for over 30 years, just never found a guy I wanted to spend EVERY DAY WITH FOR THE REST OF MY F***ING LIFE. :o
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:13 PM
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47. I know how you feel.
I thought I had found The One, but no.... :(
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:16 PM
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49. I've never really wanted to be married, I suppose
been asked many times but . . . . . always found a reason not to. Maybe I was just being kind. :D
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:17 PM
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51. Me too, I guess.
Sure would be nice to get laid again, though! :eyes:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:29 PM
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45. Well, according to Jesus, you're A-OK!
"I was hungry and you fed me..." etc.

:thumbsup:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:13 PM
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48. Lest ye bow down before the throne of the trinity:
Gop and his son, the brainless bush, and the holy spirit of voting machine hackers, ye shall not be saved. For it is harder for an camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for Skittles to give up his principles and righteousness.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:16 PM
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50. HER priciples!
do not insult me! :D
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:23 PM
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55. Oh sorry! I know you're Fem. I was thinking so generically male!
Silly me. I've been like this ever since 11/3. I thought the fog was lifting, but my head still isn't clear.
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papiamento Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:18 PM
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52. dunno
nt
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:21 PM
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53. Create a common enemy and keep public in fear.Bush doctrine.
That's why.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:23 PM
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54. I've always loved the saying...
"What you see in others is a reflection of yourself."
Their hate and contempt for fellow Americans is a
reflection of their character, not ours. :hug:
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MayJuly4 Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:29 PM
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57. Why do you think that?
Why do you think they don't like you?
What do they do?

I get along fine with my conservative family members and friends. We just agree not to talk about politics, religion, gay rights, etc.

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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:32 PM
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58. Why should you care what conservatives think?
I'm sure there are rapists and cross-burners and child molesters out there who would probably wouldn't like you, either. You don't give a shit about the opinions of the KKK or NAMBLA, so why should you care what conservatives think?
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