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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:24 PM
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"Adolph" Ashcoft, derides US courts for protecting individual rights
What a fruitcake...Good ridance
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6802407
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Departing Attorney General John Ashcroft, dealt several court defeats over U.S. anti-terrorism policies, on Friday derided what he called judges' second-guessing of the president's decisions.

"These encroachments include some of the most fundamental aspects of the president's conduct of the war on terrorism," Ashcroft told the Federalist Society, a conservative lawyers group, in his first public remarks since the White House announced his resignation on Tuesday.

"The danger I see here is that intrusive judicial oversight and second-guessing of presidential determinations in these critical areas can put at risk the very security of our nation in a time of war," Ashcroft said.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:26 PM
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1. never did get in trouble for breaking law
with the 9/11 senate hearing committee. did he. no wonder he is bothered about rights, lol he doesnt have to follow the rules obviously
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:28 PM
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2. Actually, second-guessing . . .
. . . of "presidential determinations" . . . (now THERE's a chilling phrase) is exactly what I expect the judiciary to do.

More power to 'em.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 04:10 PM
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5. If you think that is chilling look at this!
Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression
Volume I Chapter VII
Means Used by the Nazi Conspiractors in Gaining Control of the German State

The Nazi conspirators restricted the independence of the judiciary and rendered it subservient to their ends. The independence of judges, before the Nazi regime, was guaranteed by the Weimar Constitution. The fundamental principle was stated briefly in Article 102: "Judges are independent and subject only to the law."

Article 104 contained a safeguard against the arbitrary removal or suspension of judges, while Article 105 prohibited "exceptional courts". The fundamental rights of the individual are set out in Article 109 and include equality before the law.

Like all other public officials, German judges who failed to meet Nazi racial and political requirements became the subject of a wide-spread purge. Non-Aryans, political opponents of the Nazis, and all persons suspected of antagonism to the aims of the Party were summarily removed (2967-PS). The provisions of the Law for the Restoration of Professional Civil Service of 7 April 1933 applied to all judges. This was declared expressly in the third regulation for the administration of the law.

To make certain that cases with political ramifications would be dealt with acceptably and in conformity with Party principles, the Nazis granted designated areas of criminal jurisdiction to the so-called Special Courts (Sondergerhte). These constituted a new system of special criminal courts, independent of the regular judiciary and directly subservient to the Party (2076-PS). A later decree considerably broadened the jurisdiction of these -courts. More...

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-07-means-18.html

The things Bush and his gang have been doing and are doing now are VERY much the same as the Nazis did!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:31 PM
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3. Ever heard of "Checks and Balances" you Crisco Kook? eom
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 03:36 PM
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4. asscrack is THE prime
example of the cabal's attitude toward the Constitution and their respect of the law - no respect...what constitution?

Where did he go 2 law school? How in god's name did he graduate? How did he ever pass the bar? These R serious questions - given his disrespect 4 the Constitution and his 'makin' it up as I go' lawlessness - HOW?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 05:00 PM
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6. I certainly hope that those who've gone to school to
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 05:01 PM by SemperEadem
obtain their JD would have a more reliable finger on the pulse of American Jurisprudence than a mediocre alcoholic wreck who barely graduated with a 2.5 grade average and HAD to work in the family business because no one else would hire him and trust him with the operation of their businesses.

Bush doesn't the mental capacity to figure his way out of a wet paper bag---and judges are totally right in their efforts to keep the constitution in the fore-front of their decision making... something that Mr. asshole seems to have let slip past his reasoning capabilities...
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