Moral Values Test!

Which of these photos is more offensive to your moral values?




Picture 1






Picture 2




My original choice for picture 1:

http://www.universalfriends.org/Images/Iraqi-civilian-deaths-11

(cut and paste and add ".jpeg" if you want to see. Too graphic for this board.)




I think the problem with democrats and morals is that we actually have them!

:puke: on you and your sick values.

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offends my moral values. Hmmm, let's see...Little boy blown apart by our bombs, which also killed his entire family, or two consenting adults who look like they are in love on probably the happiest day of their lives. I mean, that was real hard.

do they not realize just how messed up in the head they are ?

:shrug:

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Gay rights did not lose the election for us. We just lost, thats that. what we need to do now is make sure that our rights don't dissappear (more).

BECAUSE our rights DID disappear.

:eyes:

ps nice first post

The democratic party NEVER supported gay marriage. There are a few maverick democrats who do (and a few repugs, like the Massachusetts judges who allowed gay marriages there), but most dem politicians have supported civil unions (the same position Bush took before the election.)

I call BS on your argument!


The PERCEPTION among Bible nuts may be that the democratic party is the party of gays, but it has only given lukewarm support to their efforts at best. And in SPITE of that fact, Gays have supported the party and deserve to be commended for it!

He's famous around the world. He lost both arms and his whole family in Bush's "Shock & Awe" attack on Baghdad.

He has become an international celebrity (except for the US corporate media, which protects us from any unsettling images). People around the world have donated so he could get prostheses and skin grafts and an education.

And who are "the terrorists"? The Iraqis who have chosen to fight the foreign invaders who were never wanted and had no legal right to enter Iraq in the first place?

Fear is the reason Bush won. Americans have given in to fear. Fear of terrorists, fear of anyone different, fear of the unknown, fear of fear - THAT's what got Bush reelected. It was his game plan from the beginning. It was why he played that damn terror meter for 3 years. Anytime the American people began to wakeup from their stupor - raise the terror level. If they ignored that - dust off a Bin Laden video.

EXCELLENT graphic!

I am under a religious obligation to help repair the world.

Letting * and company tear up little kids is offensive to those values. Seeing two people who love each other go through a ceremony to acknowledge that love is not.

When Oregon legalized gay marriage, a lesbian couple from my synagogue went to Portland and got married. At the next Shabbat service, they lit candles in celebration, and got a standing ovation. That's what "values" is about: celebrating what is best in us, like love and commitment.

Tucker

Thank you for that tale. What a happy Sabbath that must have been!

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love to see mangled children with missing limbs. I guess thats just part of their moral values stuff.

I don't have the stomach to click the link though.

second picture, the context suggests it's a gay marriage ceremony. if the debate is "is that good or bad", then it's going to be a moral issue for most people (whichever side they are on).

first picture, though, there's no context. an injured kid, without knowing the story, has no moral implications at all. how'd he get that way? you need the answer, before you pass judgment.

...aside from the idiotic mainstream corporate media know picture number 1. Ali is world-famous (except in the US)

For more about him, his struggle and his progress:

http://www.aliabbas.net/


But it should be pretty obvious that the boy was mutilated by Bush's mercenary war of aggression.

Civilians are getting caught in the middle. Our own troops are dying. And for what? A war that didn't need to be fought.

And people are willing ot let that slide...to prevent two people of the same sex from getting married? Same sex couples receive harsh treatment everywhere they go. They have to put up with the ridicule of others, not to mention the lack of benefits. Why would they do that if they just decided that they wanted to be deviant? Some of these couples have been together decades. Why should those people not enjoy the same basic rights as heterosexual couples. It makes no sense whatsoever that 2 heterosexual people could get drunk one night and get married and divorced within a week and 2 homosexual people who've been together for 20 years can't get married.

sorry

Hmmm...

Wonderful to see two people pledging to share life like that. Picture one and the original choice for picture one made my blood run cold.

.....put in a menal ward. Because anyone who would think the way they do is a danger to themselves and others! What Dumba**'s!

Without compassion their is no justice or moral values, only empty intellectual battle.

President Bush has sent 150 people to their death in Texas, including the mentally ill. To a real man of faith there is no enemy or axis of evil, all are brothers, sisters and neighbors. Such gentlemen are rare. If your brother choses a different way or belief do you kill him; you show the right way only by example.

First off I have compassion for those who deserve it. Do you feel that people should have compassion for those who feel that killing innocent men ,women and children is right? Do you feel that people should have compasion for those who feel that treating gay people like they are total garbage and the scum of the earth and feel that they shouldn't be allowed to exist when in fact we are no better than them and they are also human beings and deserve to be treated the same as you and me? If you really feel that way then so be it but I in fact do not feel any compassion for these kind of people!

I personally do feel these people have mental problems. If you can explain to me what is moral about killing innocent people and gay bashing maybe I might feel different. But there is nothing moral about it! Therefor NO I DON'T HAVE COMPASSION FOR THESE PEOPLE!
Also if you can explain the reasoning for someone that feels killing innocent people is moral without there being something wrong with them mentally.

And to answer your question about if my brother choses a different way or beleif would I kill him? First off I will say it again anyone who feels that killing inocent people, gay bashing ect. is moral they have mental problems and should be locked up because they are a danger to themselves and others. They need serious help. No they shouldn't be killed but they should be locked up and get help. And yes this I feel this applies to all who are like this even if it was my brother!

Hey angrydemocrat; my post was not intended to offend you. I posted it in the wrong place. However when you go to a space beyond anger and come to see the whole picture you will move towards compassion. There must be a seed of compassion whithin you, otherwise you won't feel outraged with gay-bashing and child killing.

Now do you think president Bush and all the Us soldiers fighting war in Iraq should be locked up because they are fighting unneeded unjust war? Our free country puts highest percentage of people (over 2 million) behind bars and each year sends many to death row. Even Gaddafi of Libya is considering revoking death sentence. We have not understood yet as a nation why we fought Civil War? Who finances war or profit from war or how people's idealism is abused through false propaganda by corporate media! I was talking about compassion in a larger context, where you can have compassion for a person, even if you do not support their beliefs, choices and actions.

Peace

for one of the best polls I ever concocted, if I may say so myself.

.. I can't imagine what they'd pick.

And tombstone anyone who voted for the obscene choice of pic #2.

But I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested in doing so. I can always dream, right?

for doing this to another nation. This insanity has to end.

How could so many find two people who love each other and wanting to marry more offensive then what was done to that innocent child.

Words fail me.

:-(

Pic #1 is the face of "collateral damage" that Bush doesn't want us to see (and that the "liberal media" under-reports, allegedly so as not to offend our sensibilities).

Family values -- Ha!

I find no moral superiority here. Quite the contrary. ...No wonder that we've lost credibility and moral authority in the world -- probably the two greatest casualties of this foolish adventure in Iraq.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

I mean really, you're presiding overa wedding, and you can't be bothered to put on a fucking tie? have you no respect?

...boy.

Not unexpected.