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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:25 AM
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The world no longer respects this country
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 07:42 AM by fujiyama
And I don't blame them. Sorry, but I don't have sympathy for the people of this country - atleast on issues like Health Care, Iraq, and outsourcing/unemployment.

This country saw everything wrong with the last four years and decided "hey let's give this guy another 4 years". At the same time they rewarded the party that presided over the most job losses in decades and a disasterous war that had no justification.

So, if you're expecting me to start getting all angry with the fact that Bill Gates is moving more jobs overseas...sorry...feel free to flame me. The rest of the world is very confused.

Many of those that voted for Bush are white white-collar workers - exactly those kind that will possibly have their job outsourced. What is there to sympathize about? These people knew what they were getting themselves into. I feel bad for individual (like those 55 million that are going to get shafted that voted for Kerry), but a majority is a majority...and 51% seem to be utterly brain dead.

Didn't Ralph Nader say "Things have to get much worse before they get better". I think I heard him say that once...or something similar to that.

Maybe I'm so cynical and tired of politics in general at this point. Over a week later, I'm still dumbfounded. I've accepted the verdict but it still makes little sense.

What will wake Americans up? I really fear another terrorist attack occuring - and this time the troubling aspect will be that the world won't care. They will have no sympathy at all....and terrorism is one situation where I feel sympathy because more innocent civilians shouldn't die - Americans, Iraqis, or anyone else for that matter. I think this country is also furthering the Clash of Civilizations with the recent TaliBornAgain shift. It's as though it's making it a self fulfilling prophecy.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:28 AM
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1. I feel the same way
these people are gonna get what they deserve. Nothing (at best!).
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:33 AM
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2. I dislike a little over half of Americans.
My fellow countrymen are selfish, arrogant, ignorant, apathetic, sociopathic assholes.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:35 AM
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3. I will still be angry on behalf of the millions who voted against Bush
But I am through feeling sorry for people who cast their ballots on meaningless emotional issues, and then get screwed despite being warned again and again. I only hope that they regret it enough to do better next time.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:38 AM
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4. Next time.
I don't know, but if * screws up as much as we're all expecting, who's to say there will be a next time?
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:53 AM
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5. I am assuming that we will endure, but you are right
The most unpredictable and radical president in modern history has just been emboldened by victory and liberated from all public accountability.

One of the reasons that I am so uncomfortable when people talk about the Democrats in 2008 is that we really don't know what the world will look like in four years.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:57 AM
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6. I think you make a VERY important point
We speak of '08 like it's a year or two away. As we saw, a LOT of crazy shit can happen in 4 years.

We have no idea what kind of crazy policies can be implemented by Bush in this time - that too with a 55-45 senate margin. The numbers just make me cringe. They have control of all branches. They'll be able to appoint whatever kind of wacko they went to federal benches.

We have no clue what things will look like in another 4 years.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:10 AM
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7. Last week on "Real Time" Pat Schroeder summed it up...
She said, "What this election has taught us is that performance doesn't matter."

I too am cynical about this, and I intend to remind every whining bush** supporter for the next 25 years what they have done to this country.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:10 AM
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8. this one right wing woman in a chat room i use to go to
i use to go to a political chat room where one of the regulars was a right wing woman who worked at walmart. she would always attack democrats and she would show her ignorance with her repeating of right wing talking points.

but one day she came on and was complaining about personal problems. about how she lost her job at walmart because she was pregnant. i can't remember the specifics. but i think it had to do with them firing entirely rather than allowing her to take time off or some other help and flexibility she needed since she was pregnant.

i know i had and still have a hard time feeling sorry for her when i heard what happened. i actually did try to understand and provide advice such as going to a lawyer and where she could report what happened. but i could just never feel any sympathy for her and still don't.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:37 AM
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9. I heard bush claiming he was going to "spend the capital" he had earned
with the rest of the world. It's bad enough he thinks he has "capital" because of his false "mandate" from his rigged election. Now he thinks he has captial with the rest of the world?!? From doing WHAT?

WTF planet is he living on?
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Thoth Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:50 AM
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12. I am truly frightened by what's coming in the next 4 years
but very few people I see face to face acknowledge the danger, even registered Dems (but who don't obsessively follow everything like we do at DU). It's just business as usual to them. oh well, another 4 years of Bush - "we'll survive".

All the elements of fascism (according to Dr. Lawrence Britt) were in place in the first Bush term except encourgement of the last important element: a pseudo-populist movement to purify the nation of its internal enemies. That'd be us, liberals, real libertarians, anyone who is gay, and anyone who publicly dissents.

Since I for one will NOT do down quietly, it sure looks like interesting times ahead.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:46 AM
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10. Worrying about the world's respect is not the way to earn their respect...
Respecting ourseleves -- knowing that we truly stand for what we say we stand for is what is important. Achieve that and everything works out fine. This period of self examination is good for us.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:54 AM
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14. sounds like
Senator Roll Over's concession speech.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:47 AM
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11. deleted dupe
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 08:51 AM by henslee
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:53 AM
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13. our only hope is EUROPE
I hope they boycott American products like F*CKING CRAZY.
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papiamento Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:59 AM
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15. it's not news that the world hates us
thing is, they always have. their leaders used to be more polite about it when they had better diplomacy with us. but most people have always hated america.

let me clarify. when you visit, they are very happy to smile and act nice and take your money as long as you're spending it. but as soon as you leave, they hate you and all the rest of the fat loud obnoxious americans. they sniff at us. always have.

i don't think you can separate the jobs issue from the political issue. we need to protect our own jobs and also protect our own power. shouldn't be just one or the other.
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:54 AM
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16. eeeeeeeej
don´t think so bad about us :o we only hate the fat loud obnoxious Americans who voted for bush :p the rest of you is just fine ;) no.. seriously... of course, I can only speak for myself, but I think there are a lot of people around the world who are just as scared of the re-election of that moron as you are. I know it scares the hell out of me. A lot of the Europeans don´t support the war in Iraq, and never have. What makes you think we all hate you??? We DO hate the situation.. I know I do, but that´s different from us all hating you guys.

And I´ve seen the debates between Bush and Kerry, and it seems to me that Bush doesn´t really like Europe a lot.. does he? :s He´s like.. almost totally anti-Europe... that´s kinda scary to us too you know :s

So.. to us, it may look like Americans hate Europeans, while some of you may think we hate you guys :s
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