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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:41 AM
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Zogby site article on voter fraud potential
I couldn't seem to find this posted yet, but sorry if it is a dupe....


I Smell a Rat

I smell a rat. It has that distinctive and all-too-familiar odor of the species Republicanus floridius. We got a nasty bite from this pest four years ago and never quite recovered. Symptoms of a long-term infection are becoming distressingly apparent.

The first sign of the rat was on election night. The jubilation of early exit polling had given way to rising anxiety as states fell one by one to the Red Tide. It was getting late in the smoky cellar of a Prague sports bar where a crowd of expats had gathered. We had been hoping to go home to bed early, confident of victory. Those hopes had evaporated in a flurry of early precinct reports from Florida and Ohio.

By 3 AM, conversation had died and we were grimly sipping beers and watching as those two key states seemed to be slipping further and further to crimson. Suddenly, a friend who had left two hours earlier rushed in and handed us a printout.

"Zogby's calling it for Kerry." He smacked the sheet decisively. "Definitely. He's got both Florida and Ohio in the Kerry column. Kerry only needs one." Satisfied, we went to bed, confident we would wake with the world a better place. Victory was at hand.

more at http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10398
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:45 AM
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1. It's on the front page already.
Good reminder for those of us that might not visit the front page all that often though.
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:48 AM
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3. ahhh mondays... not sure how i missed that one!
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32flavors Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:46 AM
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2. I agree wtih Dave420
It seems we can all be up in arms about the election being fraudulent and unfair, and how did we let the repubs get away with this again, but WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? I appreciate this forum to vent and get interesting info -- have been reading comments for a while though haven't posted before -- but what can we do besides talking about it here? I've been feeling like I need a goodold-fashioned march to protest this election, but the Zogby article just gave me more fuel for the fire. How can we get mainstream media to talk about this? To demand a recount? A recall? I don't have the answers, but I'm wondering if someone does.....as much as the talking is nice, I feel like we need to take some definitive action, or they'll just continue to steal elections, and make the majority of americans -- including elected democrats -- too afraid to protest. So what now?
And just to add -- I,too, have that White Stripes song stuck in my head now.
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:50 AM
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4. we need some democratic leaders with balls
and I am afraid that is our biggest problem.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:01 AM
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5. Even more we need media that will actually let our voices be
heard. May leaders are talking about it. Nader, Cobb Kucinich, congressmen etc. Trouble is the media will not air their complaints rigorously.
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:11 AM
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7. ok, balls and big lungs
and people who will be listened to. the media is not giving any air to the story, i agree, but most people think nader is a bit of a weirdo to start with. (not necessarily me, but many i know).
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:10 AM
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6. There are a number of activist steps you can take here
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:12 AM
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8. Another good article on the Zogby site
Votergate 2004; We Don't Need Paper to Prove Fraud, But We Do Need Money
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10385

Also listed in my Compendia (along with numerous DU discussions, some of them absolutely superb):

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:18 AM
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9. Why isn't Zogby investigating? n/t
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:07 PM
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10. Excellent! It's on my home page.
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