All right, I've heard the analysts say

there were problems with the E-vote, but not enough to swing the election.

There were problems with Dem voter suppression, but not enough to swing the election.

There were problems with lost ballots, but not enough to swing the election.

There were problems with excess votes, compared to voter rolls, but not enough to swing the election.

There were problems with counting provisional ballots, but not enough to swing the election.

Every time I see a mention in the MSM it is focused on a single aspect of fraud, always followed with the disclaimer that there seems to be a problem, but it would not have affected the final outcome.

Is anyone adding these together, the Diebold and ESS voting machine and vote tabulators, the people turned away in Dem areas because of insufficient numbers of voting machines, the lost votes, the uncounted provisional ballots, the over-votes for *?

Added together, is that enough to swing the election?

"Get used to it, suckers."

Sit back and take it like a good girl.

Otherwise Sen. Kerry would not have conceded. He and his advisers are not stupid.

Leading me to wonder if you're in the right place.

would they start telling the truth now.

the republican meme is that it "wouldn't affect the outcome".

they want to frame every election problem in the context of an election that was a foregone conclusion, so all this mischief is mere trivia.


we need to re-set the terms of the debate. let's try this:

if bush was going to win anyway, WHY did they bother with the e-votes jiggering?

if bush was going to win anyway, WHY did they bother did they suppres dem voters?

if bush was going to win anyway, WHY did they bother disappearing ballots?

if bush was going to win anyway, WHY did they bother creating votes in excess of voter rolls?

if bush was going to win anyway, WHY did they bother tinkering with the counting of provisional ballots?

"Don't bother investigating because it will just be a waste of time." Apparently they believe they're psychics and we're idiots. :silly: