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POTGNE Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:15 AM
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Testing...Testing....1, 2, 3.....LOL! Can you hear me now???
This is my first thread....Hooray! LOL! :party:

OK, now let's get down to business...LOL!

Something needs to be done about this! This is the most absurd and Orwellian idea I have ever heard of! Everyone should write in opposition of this bill to their Senators! I know I certainly don't want my children to be turned into walking zombies! This crackpot idea came directly from George Dumbya Bush himself, who implemented the same program (called the Texas Algorithm Project, or something like that) in Texas. One couple there had their son taken away for child neglect for taking him off of his medication when they found out that it was causing horrible side effects. I know for a fact that this type of thing happens too, because my cousin's son has an ADD related complex. She was threatened with action recently by the School system's nurse who said taking him off of his ADD meds was tantamount to taking away a diabetic's insulin. That's ridiculous! ADD is not a life threatening condition! I've watched her son lose massive amounts of weight, and that's only one of the side effects that this medication has had on him. Now he has a heart condition that he never had prior to starting this medication! Some of these medication are VERY new, and they can't possibly know the side effects until they've been in circulation for a while. I, for one, don't trust the government to tell me when my kid needs to be medicated for their "mental" health. I also don't trust the pharmaceutical companies not to use our children as guinea pigs with the full backing of the government! This is INSANE!

News Article Below:

Bill to Screen, Medicate Kids May Hit Senate This Week
by Christopher Getzan (bio)


Legislation to test children for "mental health disorders" and then provide them commercial drugs -- which would be highly controversial if people knew about it -- could reach Congress during this month's lame duck session.


Nov 15 - Funding for a controversial Bush administration plan to submit the nation's school children to mental health testing and drug treatment may end up reaching the Senate floor this week, as GOP congressional leaders look to clear the legislative slate in order to set the table for George W. Bush's second term.

The plan, called the New Freedom Initiative (NFI), is the keystone of a package of initiatives by the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, a group of doctors and mental health care professionals established by the Bush Administration in 2002.

As previously reported by The NewStandard, the Initiative’s critics, ranging from grassroots mental health advocacy organizations to government whistleblowers, have said the NFI's proposals do little else but establish state-mandated markets for the psychiatric pharmaceutical industry.

In 2003, the Commission published a report recommending states encourage more mental health testing and treatment for Americans and suggested public schools were an ideal place to access students and begin to root out undiagnosed and "severely disruptive" mental health issues. It pointed to a program begun during George Bush's governorship of Texas called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP), which set a standard operating procedure within a flow chart allowing psychiatrists to identify and medicate possible conditions.

"It doesn't have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose; it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose." --Allen Jones, Whistleblower
In a report posted on the website of the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights quotes a whistleblower who says doctors staffing the Texas program had strong links to pharmaceutical companies, and those doctors often prescribed expensive, brand-name drugs over cheaper alternatives. The source of that claim is Allen Jones, a former investigator for the Office of the Inspector General who says he was fired for speaking out against a TMAP-style program in Pennsylvania.

The NFI plan, said Jones, does not "have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose." Instead, "it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose."

Another critic of the initiative, holistic mental health advocate David Oaks, says the end result of the New Freedom Initiative’s recommendations will be nothing short of "hundreds of thousands of more kids being put on psychiatric drugs." Oaks is director of the mental health advocacy group Mind Freedom.

In Oaks’ opinion, the issues of child mental health are not only more complicated than just testing for disorders and putting kids on drugs, but are also colored by powerful societal pressures and millions of dollars in drug revenues. Oaks has called the president’s plan "No child left undrugged."

Nevertheless, the plan does have some powerful supporters. The American Psychiatric Association, which itself receives some of its funding from drug companies, has voiced approval for the plan, and a number of other states are already researching and implementing their own versions of TMAP.

During a "lame duck" session of Congress, Senate leadership is trying to push through unfinished appropriations measures for fiscal year 2005. The Bush administration had requested about $44 million for states to implement mental health screening. The House version of the bill, which has already passed, includes $20 million in support of the New Freedom Commission’s plan. It is unclear how much the Senate will appropriate.

On the coattails of the bill's passage out of the House, Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) is now championing the "Let Parents Raise Their Kids Act," which would prevent federal dollars to fund any universal system of mental health screening that does not hinge on parental-guardian consent. Previously, Paul had failed to insert an amendment to the appropriations bill blocking federal funding of the NFI recommendations.




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jayde Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:46 AM
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1. Ugh
I swear, if they try and drug my child, I'll fight it. This is truly scary. I'd be far more liable to leave the country than to let someone say my child has a "severely disrupted" mental health issue and try and drug her to "control" her.

Looks like Home Schooling may be the way to go if you don't want your kids drugged, eh?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:21 AM
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2. may want to post this in the parenting forum too.. n/t
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POTGNE Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:13 AM
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3. Thanks, I'll do that!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:16 AM
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4. Very important subject.
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:18 AM by Octafish
First: No one will ever "medicate" my kids without my or my wife's approval.

Second: You might want to change your subject line to reflect the important issue you bring up.

Third: A hearty welcome to DU, POTGNE! Great first thread!

idEt: Forgetfulnes
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:39 AM
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5. friday pulled kids out of fundie christian school,
and putting them into a public school only to be faced with task tests and mandatory drugging. a parent cant win. my oldest 9 is so ADD a little einstein, above and beyond in the brain and obtuse to the whole working of the real world around him. in private they suggested drugs, and i said not a chance. gotta see if we can do this public school of laws and demands on parents taking away our right in decision making. edmund has had 6 years to gain tools to help him, but he is still often a confused child
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:43 AM
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6. Congrats on your first thread! Great topic! Welcome to DU! n/t
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