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simply_the_best Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:09 PM
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NEW KERRY VIDEO
Senator John Kerry is asking for co-sponsors for his health care plan for every child.
VIEW VIDEO HERE:
http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:11 PM
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1. KLEENEX PLEASE....


*** DON'T GIVE UP KERRY!!! WE HAVEN'T GAVE UP ON YOU!!!***
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:35 PM
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60. WE USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN FALLUJA!!! :(
we need to hit "undo" several times and Kerry/Edwards are the ones to do it! let's get Daschle in the Cabinet! WE NEED PEACE NOW!!!

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:12 PM
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2. right message
wrong forum.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:13 PM
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3. This is actually pretty good
8 million children without health care is a national disgrace.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:17 PM
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6. And yet we want compelled mental health screenings.
Via the No Child Left Undrugged effort (S.B. 1183). Guess they make more money off of psychotropic (mental health) drugs than those relating to basic medical care.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:21 PM
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9. I thought that the mental health screening did not pass..
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:01 PM
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16. Little known data on psychotropic meds doled out to minorities....
http://www.garynull.com/Events/AfricanAmericans.aspx

Funny how things work.... isn't it? Not funny here.

>>Investigating institutional psychiatry reveals a morbid history of
bigotry and oppression that continues through to the present day.

*

Psychiatrists involuntarily commit African Americans to psychiatric institutions three-to-five times more often than Whites.
*

Psychiatrists in private and public mental hospitals diagnose African American men with schizophrenia up to fifteen times more often than Whites.
*

More than twice as many African Americans are classified as mentally retarded than Whites<<
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:17 PM
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59. gary null is an uberquack

I'm as dubious of the pharma boys as any rational person, but anything on that man's website is automatically bunk to me

rcm
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:21 AM
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65. Pharmaboyz are criminals.... link
www.drugawareness.org
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:16 PM
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4. Kids are not red or blue and they deserve proper health care
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 06:16 PM by JPace
from this government.

You Go Kerry!
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:16 PM
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5. absolutely awesome!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:18 PM
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7. I'm all for Kerry's efforts ..
as opposed to the efforts of another group of officials...
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lilfroggy Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:18 PM
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8. Well....ok, ok...
I just want every vote counted John, and I want your lawyers to stop with the 'it's just a conspiracy theory' thing.....Bev Harris is finding tons of stuff ...wake up and see it. That's all that's asked. When votes get dumped in the trash can in Volusia county, Florida, you know it's been rigged.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:22 PM
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10. well ok lilfroggy - watch the vid, he says every vote will be counted
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 06:23 PM by emulatorloo
<snip> from the text version

Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm.


I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.

<snip>
 
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:36 PM
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35. I've written him twice
via his on-line Senator page about just this thing. Today I asked him how he could allow voting machines in a swing state (!!) that have no paper trail, or ANY trail. No way to recount the votes...how could he let Nov. 2nd come and go with a recount impossible to be had? This is a disgrace to the Greatest Democracy in the World, I said.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:11 PM
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72. Another example of lilfroggy's dem-bashing
.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:27 PM
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11. The moment I saw the video I though OMG it's the President!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:18 PM
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18. President Kerry--
I have that reaction too--and he can be our "shadow president"--for the half of us who voted for him. He is a natural leader, and if he just keeps doing what he naturally does, he'll keep a loyal following. There's more than one way to lead a country. Go John!
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:38 PM
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36. The Other President
I like that idea.
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:30 PM
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43. "our" president
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simply_the_best Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:11 AM
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68. WhiteHouse Vampire
GinnyinWI
I love your commentatry on our 'shadow president'... just love it..... but it reminds me of 'he who casts no shadow':)
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BlueStatesForever Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:42 PM
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12. He is showing himself
for the caring leader I always thought he was. I wondered for awhile after the election, but now I know.

If you're reading, Thanks Senator Kerry. I'm still here for you.


PS:
I saw an old beat up pick up truck, redneck driving, with a beat up "Veterans for Kerry" bumper sticker. Was heartening...

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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:42 PM
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13. Right message - at the right time! He's asking us to CONTINUE
to fight the fight (recounts included). It ain't over, folks - it's just begun!
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:52 PM
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14. GO JOHNNY GO!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:57 PM
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15. Kerry is not going quitely into the night!!!
Go John!
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KenCarson Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:07 PM
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17. once again "believe me, every vote will be counted"
ok.

I have no idea what to make of it. Is he?

A. A "stalking horse" who took a preplanned fall? I don't like this theory, but people have mentioned it.
B. Playing it cool until a real smoking gun can be found. This is showing the nation he does not crack under pressure.
C. Unconcerned about a smoking gun, as long as it's overturned and he's in the oval office. So it could be a "glitch" and not "fraud".
D. Really accepting he lost, and is doing what he can to promote the same ideas in the areas that he can be productive in.

Don't attack me, please. Are there any other major variations I've overlooked?
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bri_in_austin Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:22 PM
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20. I love that he said that!
I don't think he is getting people's hopes up for no reason. I think he thinks that there is a chance that he could still win Ohio. Now, he obviously isn't guaranteeing it because he said that we need to stand strong whatever the outcome, but it sounds like he doesn't think the election is over yet!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:27 PM
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21. Don't know for sure...
but I've learned to expect the unexpected from him!

Really, this is how I would think if I were in his place: I'd think that I probably had little chance of winning at this point, and start charging ahead with my agenda as Senator. But I'd keep the door open a crack and not dismiss others' efforts at recounts or whatever.
He knows what he wants to do, and will try to do it in whatever capacity he can. He'll be the same dedicated public servant. I hope this will prove to people that he is an honest guy and not an elitist politician. Those who suspect an honest man of dishonesty, generally are dishonest themselves-- and can't trust that someone would and could be honest.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:37 PM
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23. Hi, ginnyinWI
Welcome to DU! :toast:

And I agree, rich or not, John Kerry has dedicated himself to public service all of his adult life. George Bush, on the other hand, actively avoided public service and seems to serve only himself and his rich buddies.

Good point.

-Laelth
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:10 PM
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71. This is what most disgusts me about Dumb-Dumb
Oil $$$$ keeps him out of Vietnam.....where he, years later, starts another one, and sends the children of America to die for this same Oil. The list of expletives would be too long here.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:22 PM
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19. Exactly The Right Tactic
Say what you will about Kerry himself, but this is precisely what the Democrats need to do -- relentlessly and passionately: create a counteragenda that nobody should be against, allow the Repunks to keep the proposals from seeing the light of day, then use the ol' Saul Alinsky political jujitsu and show America that the "family values" Repunks are actually anti-family values.

This way in '06 and '08 every Democrat in the country, from dog catcher to President, can paint every single solitary Repunk as being against progress.

Sign the petition and forward it to someone you know voted for Bush. Let them see what Democrats are REALLY for.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:35 PM
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22. Okay, I may be for it,
does my sign-up actually 'co-sponsor the bill'? Is this a petition?
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njnop Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:46 PM
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27. Yea

Go John, We've got your back. Don't forget us out here working for a time when we can be proud again to be Americans.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:43 PM
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24. Thank You John! (nt)
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:44 PM
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25. Thank you, Mr. President!
I will proudly co-sponsor your bill.

Never give up.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:45 PM
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26. OMG... He looks so sad...

While watching I had a nagging feeling that John Kerry somehow looked, um... different!

I kept searching for what it was and then glanced at his picture on the right from pre-election period and I knew it immediately... He just looks sad... His face is drawn and the color is gone...

I feel so bad for him...

Especially noted is the part where he said: "Now more than ever your effort counts"...

Hmmm... Is he trying to tell us something?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:28 PM
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34. I agree on BOTH points.
He does look very tired. This MAY have been tough on all of us, but imagine how tough it is on him...having to return to the Hill as a Senator, NOT as President (YET)...and all the Repug's he's seeing face to face every day, who clearly are happy with the current alleged Election results. It may be draining for all of us waiting for some REAL hope in the recount, but imagine how he's 'holding his breath,' losing sleep as well.

So I do believe your second point too, (and HIS) that: "more than ever (OUR) effort counts." Yeah, I think he's saying a lot.

Hang in there, President Kerry! We're counting on ya (and ourselves)!:bounce:
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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:43 PM
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37. Campaigns are grueling events.
An election campaign is a grueling process but, let's not forget, he was slandered in every direction by the most brutal smear campaign ever imaginable.

I will concur with was has been stated in this thread already, though. I don't know if I'm the only one but I actually got choked up while watching the video. For the first time in a while, I truly felt as if that was someone that I could really be proud of as President (which is more then I can say for the current occupant of the White House).

I just don't understand how 51% of the population could not see the honor, integrity, decency, and compassion that I saw in John Kerry through that video compared to the other guy.
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:24 AM
Response to Reply #26
64. he looked & sounded shaky talking on spending limits too n/t
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:57 PM
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28. I was leaning towards leaving the country..
but now I'm leaning towards staying. John Kerry looked like he was ready to fight, and if he needs an army I'm there!
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:05 PM
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29. Thanks for sharing this.....
John Kerry is awesome and he is promising to count every vote and fight for a health care plan for every child......Maybe we will indeed move into the league of civilized nations under his leadership... He is my President..... that interloper will never do anything but lead us to disPAIR and WAR..!!!!
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:13 PM
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30. Why, Why, Why...
...didn't Kerry win. Why don't the other 59 million people who voted for him know what I know. We would be soooooooo much better off with Kerry.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:21 PM
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31. Wow, he's going to fight. Not going anywhere.
Really going to use his power for good now.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:21 PM
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32. Received and passed it on to everyone I know voted for Kerry!
Power to the people! I want to believe that we are a force to be reckoned with! and will do everyone I can to help!
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:26 PM
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33. Holy Cow. He is STILL taking to Bush. No namby pamby
bullshit. Way to go John. Dare I to hope?
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currentsupply Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:46 PM
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38. Kerry was the best candidate
He worked his ass off.

We need to have somebody somewhere fix this voting system so the votes actually add up the way they were cast.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:52 PM
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39. Thanks for the link
He sounded hoarse, but he is probably still tired. It is nice to hear from him again.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. I have been lurking
:grouphug:
in these rooms since the election and at last I feel as though there may be some hope! I don't have to move to Canada and there is something left to fight for- YAY!
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brucefan Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:16 PM
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41. I still have my
Kerry/Edwards lawn sign up.And will not take it down til after their inauguration.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:18 PM
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42. Same here
I'm not giving up till every vote is verified
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simply_the_best Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:28 AM
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70. I'm not taking my signs down yet...
Yes, my lawn and window signs are staying until Hell freezes over; either in protest or celebration.
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BlueStatesForever Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:34 PM
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44. Here's what Olbermann had to say on the subject

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

Olbermann's big question was why did Kerry put this out on "Take Out the Trash" Friday? Why didn't he announce to the media?

I know why. He's like us. We need to take back our information. Let the Republicans have the media if they want it. We'll use the Internet, thank you very much, where the real information is.

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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #44
49. Give the TV media some cheese w/ the whine..
Aww..poor TV media people.

:nopity:


Since when are they into reporting NEWS, anyway?? Lord knows most of us have had to come to blogs and other sites to get real news on shrub's misdeeds over the last several months. So making the TV talking heads feel very insignificant is a GOOD thing. Maybe when they have to take back seat to the Internet, they will start to actually report worthwile shit?? My ban on having the news channels on as I surf the Net is ongoing since the wee hours of Nov 3rd. Much more pleasant to have music on as I get real news directly from AP, Reuters, blog message links, etc...
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:43 PM
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45. THIS VIDEO IS SIGNIFICANT.
he's listening to the voices of the grassroots. He addressed fox news and sinclaire by name, and he said every vote will be counted, and left open the results of the election. He looked VERY serious and im takin this seriously.
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kapp Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #45
58. Got an email from the DNC Internet Team...
...earlier today, titled 'We heard you, and we're committed to fight'. There'd be no grassroots if it weren't for the Internet. It would appear the entire party is taking this seriously. And they need to, as well as all of us need to. Go Kerry.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #58
62. "We the people..."
...just as our Forefathers intended!

Go Kerry! Go us!:bounce:
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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:48 PM
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46. This is Great!
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 09:49 PM by DeepGreen
For once a senator is asking for our help to get a bill started instead of going to colleagues!!

Go Kerry



:D B-) :hippie: :toast: :bounce: :kick: :grouphug: :pals:
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CountDmoney Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:59 PM
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47. I agree maybe this can be the begining of a movement
that involves us all in a more direct way in the day to day workings of our government. I said to myself after the election that John Kerry is in a unique position to lead an opposition to this corrupt administration from the senate, and it looks like he will. Cool. I have some hope again!!
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:09 PM
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48. excellent
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:25 PM
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50. Kerry is covering ALL bases; no matter what happens...
he's going to make sure that the Enlightened agenda will progress, no matter what temporary set-back occurs! I believe that B*** will be removed from office, even if he is taken out after the election like Nixon was.

In the meantime, he is not "counting" on us proving voter fraud and correctly putting him in office (although I haven't given up!), but he is hedging his bets and making sure that whatever the "outcome" of this stolen election, we will continue to move forward!

Kerry is My President! Just as many others in this post have said that he's My President! I think we need to continue this: B*** is NOT my president, Kerry is MY PRESIDENT!!!!

20% is not a mandate, since when has 20% ever been a majority?

I don't give lip service to "Values" or "Morals", I have REAL Values, and Kerry is MY PRESIDENT!!!!!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:35 PM
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53. I like it, I like it, I like it, President Kerry has a ring to it,

It sounds like music to my ears and I share in your endosement of the man, I would have voted in Alaska for John Kerry & John Edwards. I saw them both speak in public and they were simply amazing, I put my trust in them and never in those who abuse us like WB/ChinaDoll.

If only I could dance.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:26 PM
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51. It's not over
I've been saying it since November 3 - the election is not over.

This video is wonderful, and I swear, I think Kerry's sending us all a message.

Just by showing up here, in this video, I think he's staying visible as if to remind us that the election's not over. Personally, I find this very heartening. When did a "losing" candidate ever make statements like this? Or send out a message on Veterans' Day, like Kerry did?

This co-sponsoring idea is brilliant.

It's not over under the electors meet to cast their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December. This year, that's December 13.

As Big John said, "... every vote will be counted."

Stuff's going on behind the scenes, I firmly believe it.

I'm still crazy about him. Don't give up hope, folks.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:31 PM
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52. Signed it - Kerry will help us take back our country, no matter what!
I was so happy to find this in my email. My biggest fear from Nov 3 until now is that the massive grassroots organization that was formed for the election would dissipate at the time when it is most needed - to oppose a second Bush term.

Kerry clearly addressed this concern: "Here is what I want you to know. I understand the strength, commitment, and passion that are at the core of what we built together -- and I am determined to make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead."

I am glad to hear from Kerry now but I do wish he had spoken sooner. Two weeks seemed like an eternity, and I suspect many people either gave up in despair or were overcome with hostile feelings. I didn't believe it, but it sure felt like he had abandoned us. Well, I'm glad he has spoken now, and I do like the way he choose to do it.

I signed the petition. I am waiting for the media to pick up on this. Will they even report it? If they do, will they try to marginalize and dismiss it? I guess we'll find out.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:36 PM
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54. We still got your back
"Thank you, man. And I assure you – you watch – I'll still have yours."

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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:38 PM
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55. I signed it with red ink
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 10:49 PM by GetTheRightVote
to smybolize all the blood that has been paid for it thru our families. God bless you John Kerry for bringing us into the bigger picture. We will sign, seal, and deliver this petition for you, American Style.

I just watched the video and I am so moved by it. I do not know for sure what words to type but I am certain of one thing this is a man I can and will support. He is my President because I know in my heart that this election was stolen from us once again. I will march with him as well as you in hope of a better tomorrow, for these children, and for all their parents who love them. I am almost moved beyond words and my cheeks are wet with tears yet I feel better this moment because I voted for this man who has lifted up my heart.
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villagechild Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:54 PM
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56. new petition?
How do you know the petition is "new" ... could the petition have been there all along? I haven't kept up-to-the-minute tabs on their website. Just asking. New member BTW!
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villagechild Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:55 AM
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63. new petition
OK, so I saw the new video. My instincts tell me there's more than 8 million kids with no insurance, but the idea of socialized medicine is a good one. Canada does it. Though, I think I'm supposed to call it "universal health care" to cut the flak from the right. They don't like words that have "social" in them ... I guess there was more in the video: keep fighting is what I heard.
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kapp Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:58 PM
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57. Why I co-sponsored...
...and why I'm here. First time post. I might be new to politics, but I think I'm starting to identify more with one side over the other. Please bear with me.

The American Sociological Association:

"European countries provide thought-provoking alternative models of child care. For example, focusing on differences between the systems available in France and Denmark, the authors find that French child care is intended primarily as early education and is open to all children, regardless of socioeconomic status. Almost 100 percent of French three-, four-, and five-year-olds are enrolled in the full-day, free écoles maternelles; all are part of the same national system, with the same curriculum, staffed by teachers paid good wages by the same national ministry. Denmark’s child care system, on the other hand, offers a “nonschool model,” and is intended to aid working parents, not educate children.

The cost of the French child care is not cheap. However, in France, child care costs are considered to be a social responsibility and are publicly funded, while in the U.S., parents themselves pay for these services. As Clawson and Gerstel remind us, not caring for our children is in the long term, and probably even in the short term, even more expensive."

(More: http://www.asanet.org/media/childcare.html)


Raising our children with every opportunity (particularly in health and education) so the complete fruition of their potential can be realized is the foundation of a strong democracy. This should be one of the fundamental goals of every single American. A social responsibility, IMHO.

My parents and I disagree politically, and yet we agree on many issues. This is one of them. I think, I hope, this could pass.

I thank you for your time. I'm excited to be here.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:54 PM
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78. I just wanted to say...


... Welcome to DU...... :)
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:38 AM
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61. Partisan resistance
that's what the message is like. an undergroud president, a parallel government, a government in exile.

it's as if kerry may be confused about what is expected of him. usually failed candidates are forgotten. now, all these calls to fight maybe bring him out. . . i can't figure this out. or maybe he knows that organization is the only method/way to prevent the end of USA and this call to organize is an attempt to preserve what we have won . . .
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:18 AM
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66. when the e-mail came
from John Kerry.com I watched it about a hundred times- while forwarding the petition to everyone I could think of that wouldn't have gotten the e-mail themselves. I've never for one second thought my time going door to door was wasted, but I have never been more proud of John Kerry. He is our president.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:59 AM
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67. Kick... Please sign President Kerry's petition...
:kick:
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:16 AM
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69. It's not just about child healthcare, isn't it...
notice the message at the bottom of the petition

"We may provide your contact information to Democratic organizers
in your region who will tell you about local volunteer opportunities."

Soon after election day I emailed the John Kerry campaign website and asked them to send out an email endorsing blackboxvoting.org. Im sure there are plenty of Kerry supporters that are not hooked into the internet like alot of us here are. They may have felt that was unethical because it was not the initial purpose of that list.

Could it be that John Kerry is enabling us to organize? One thing I am finding out through the trials and tribulations of this campaign is that there is a lot more to John Kerry that one might notice on the inside. The wisdom of his life's experience is making itself apparent to me. If you look closely you might see it too.

This is no ordinary man....

This is a man that could have been a true diplomat and courier of our collective values as a nation...not just the small percentage that want to tell the rest of us what our values should be.

So get the word out. This isnt just about this particular issue...it's about much more in estimate.
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progressivedancer Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:57 PM
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73. This is great,
Let's keep up the pressure on Kerry to lead the opposition.
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and Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:58 PM
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74. SENATOR Kerry wasn't hungry enough to be President
Only two weeks has passed and already Kerry has slipped back into his comfortable role as a Senator. It looks like he wasn't hungry enough to be President and conceded even before the final ballot count in OH.

Some of us have been supporting and bankrolling the organizations that are investigating possible election fraud in OH and FL. Kerry should be using his extra campaign money (that we gave him) to help these groups so that there will be an accurate record of the election results and to ensure that election fraud will not be tolerated.

As to health care for children, this bill is another good-guy, no brainer issue. It's one of the issues that was part of the "good" issues platform that Kerry and the Democratic leadership designed for the election. It was too high a moral road and we lost because of it.

The Republicans accurately assessed the mentality of the majority of voters and offered them the emotionally charged issues of security from terrorism, abortion and gay marriage. They won because of this tactic.

Democrats need to wake up and realize that the strategies that we have been using aren't working; we aren't able compete with the Republicans to win elections. During the next two years, we need to seriously evaluate, strategize and come up with a new game plan.
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progressivedancer Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:29 PM
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75. i don't know and
I believe that Kerry's decision to step back for a while was a good move. By taking a step back, one gets a clearer picture of what is going on and how to approach a conflict. I also think that its disrespectful to say Kerry wasn't hungry enough to be president,I can attest that anybody who has the cajones to run for president of this country is deeply committed to his/her goals. If Kerry didn't want to be President he could've just walked out on us during the primaries. He also could've just caved in during all the smear campaign, yet despite SHIT-load of smearing, which was the worst and ugliest in American history, he was able to survive.

Kerry now, in my opinion, understands what the Democratic party needs to do in terms of reforming strategies. I hope the Elizabeth Edwards has mentioned DU to Kerry, as everyone in this forum (mostly everyone, with the exception of few)has a constructive input on how to fight our battles.

Right now though, i'm rallying behind the man that I fought so hard for.
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and Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:50 PM
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76. Clueless Democratic leadership
I was originally a Dean supporter and I think the shout that the media slammed him for was exactly the kind of dragon energy that we needed to win this election.

I don't think that Kerry or the Democratic leadership has a clue about how to reform the strategies. I worked on election 2000 and this campaign was run exactly like that one and so we lost again. They had four years to make changes and they didn't do a thing. Now we have to suffer with Bush for four more years.

There is a saying that the mentality that created the problem, can't fix it. The vested Democrats think in a certain groove and act in a certain groove. They can't think outside the comfortable box that they've lived in for so long.

As Arianna Huffington said recently in one of her articles, it's time for some new puppies.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:52 PM
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77. You're angry like we all are
Take a chill pill.
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and Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:00 PM
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80. Not going to wait anymore
A chill pill? What's a chill pill? Sounds like a cutesy euphemism to keep me from expressing my views.

I'm not going to supress my justifiable anger; I'm going to channel it into some very position action.

Four years ago, I worked on Gore's campaign and was at the victory celebration in the huge ballroom of a local hotel on election night. Bush's face came on one of the huge jumbo-trons, elected as the 43rd President of the U.S. Some of the newly-graduated, female college interns who were in the ballroom burst into tears.

I suffered through the first three years of Bush's presidency and a year ago made the decision to devote 2004 to the election of a Democratic President. I contributed a lot of money and a lot of time this past year, as did so many others.

I also watched as the Democrat leadership ran election '04 in almost exactly the same way as they had run the campaign in 2000; it was just bigger this year. We not only lost the Presidency this time but the Senate minority leader and seats in the Senate and the House.

The Democratic leadership had four years between 2000 and 2004 to change its political strategy and it did essentially nothing.

I went along with the established party agenda for four years but I'm not going to anymore. The party is on a downward death spiral and needs some new energy and some new thinking in order to save it.

I'm not going to take your chill pill. I'm going make lots and lots of noise. I'm going to band together with other loud mouths and we are going to be the dragon's breath that is needed now in order to keep the party from being destroyed by the Republicans.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:03 PM
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79. What is the man thinking??
No one will dispute this is not a very important and vital issue.

However, for Kerry to be focusing on this right now is nothing short of insane. Its like decorating the baby's room when the house is on fire.

Makes me doubt Kerry that much more.
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