Difference between Dr. Billy Graham and Pat Robertson?

I know what Pat Robertson is about, Fundie lunatic. But who is Billy Graham? From what I've heard about him, he seems to be more of a genuine man of religion and respectful religious leader rather than someone trying to push a radical agenda onto others. Anybody?

Some of his words I found quite moving as a child. But he's not a mystic, that's for sure. I recall him as being mainstream religion, perhaps a little bit on the conservative side, but nothing controversial. Don't recall him having much to say one way or another about the Civil Rights movement, for example.

..politics based on religion as much as tending to the spiritual needs of politicians (mostly Republican?). Pat Robertson is all agenda and no spirituality as far as I can tell.

Billy Graham has a better PR person, but he's not a better person.

Pat Robertson is a fake, SOB. I do not agree with everything that Billy Graham has to say, but he is a good person.

Billy Graham is that, he sure does appreciate the all the cash his "followers" provide. Mister Graham is no more a man of God than I. Reminds me of another phony, Oral " I'm gonna meet my maker if I don't get some more money" Roberts. It's perfectly fine to have religion in your life, but might I suggest supporting a local community church, who truly could use your support. I'm sure ol' Billy sure does think that God wants him to be filthy rich off the backs of hard working people. Evangelism (B. Graham style) to me is one of the biggest and oldest con games ever.

Other than that, not much.

But if you listen carefully the insanity comes through.

--IMM

On the drooling nutsoid scale Robertson is hard to top. But, Billy is hardly a mental health poster boy. If there is a God, and a heaven, and those types unhabit it, there better be a lot of angelic straight jackets and Thorazine in stock.

You might have misread my post. I said that Graham, at first glance seems like a regular person.

Story: When I was a kid I remember my mother, who was Jewish, remarking that Billy Graham "is a brilliant man." Kind of high praise from her. So one time, when I was about 12 years old, I listened to one of his television crusades.

I went back to my mother and told her I thought he was totally nuts. But you had to listen to him to tell. Robertson beams insanity that cannot be missed.

I think we're in total agreement.

--IMM

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=12968

"Back in April, 1989, a Graham memo to Nixon was made public. It took the form of a secret letter from Graham, dated April 15, 1969, drafted after Graham met in Bangkok with missionaries from Vietnam. These men of God said that if the peace talks in Paris were to fail, Nixon should step up the war and bomb the dikes. Such an act, Graham wrote, "could overnight destroy the economy of North Vietnam."

Graham lent his imprimatur to this recommendation. Thus, Graham was advocating a policy to the U.S. Commander in Chief that on Nixon's own estimate, recently disclosed in a tape from the Archive, would have killed a million people. The German high commissioner in occupied Holland, Seyss-Inquart, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg for breaching dikes in Holland in World War II."

"Later, Graham says that "a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine. They swarm around me and are friendly to me. Because they know I am friendly to Israel and so forth. They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country.""

Graham and Robertson are the type of religious leaders even the Gospels rail against.

Is that Christ's most "devoted" followers are in organized religion, politics, and the boardrooms.

All the things that he preached against.

I'm an agnostic but a great admirer of what he had to say, minus the commentary of some of his followers, and the very real perversions of his words by the priests and preachers from Paul to Pat Robertson.

making millions off the backs of foolish, frightened people. He's very good at the con.

His son Franklin is 1000% worse than he ever was.

Graham preached the sermon at the opening ceremonies of Oral Roberts University in the 60s.

Graham preached the sermon at the memorial service for the victims of the OKC bombing.