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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:00 AM
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Footage Surfaces On Mass Graves Of US Soldiers
New Report, Footage Surfaces On Mass Graves Of US Soldiers

Nov 16, 2004
By Bruce Kennedy, JUS


In August, reports began surfacing about incidents of dead American bodies being dumped into the Diali River by US helicopters in the early morning hours. Fishermen on the Diali river area , a small river originates in Iran and ends at Deglah, 60 kilometer east of Baghdad, were the first to notice the American practice of dumping bodies wrapped in black plastic bags from helicopters at dawn time into the river. Some of the bodies, still wrapped in plastic bags, were caught in their fishing nets.

Over the next few weeks more bodies were found in other locations including Al-Tharthar in Sammara and Wadi Hairan in Al-Ratibah. The bodies have been collected and buried in the general areas of those locations.

A new report has now surfaced on the Arabic website abolkhaseb.net, accompanied by some footage, which provides an in-depth analysis of the discovery of the bodies. The writer of the five page report (in Arabic) goes into great detail details about locations and how the bodies were dumped in rivers and remote desert locations. The author claims to have talked to two American female soldiers and an American communications officer who reluctantly confirmed the finding but said that most of these bodies were mercenaries who were promised high paying job and in some case US citizenship.

The narrator on the film clip indicates that the bodies were taken from the mass graves to an undisclosed grave and they will be handed over to Red Crescent, Red Cross or any organization that promises to get the truth out.

Both the narrator and the author of the report give evidence which they conclude are the reasons why the Americans would dispose of dead soldiers in this fashion, specifically to hide casualties especially in an election year and that because many of the bodies were badly burned, such as occurs in explosions, the Americans would fear a of public backlash if this kind of carnage resulted.

The narrator on the film presents some convincing reasons why it is believed these bodies are Americans, besides the fact that some were seen being dropped from US helicopters by the fisherman, namely

•The bodies are tall, unlike Iraqis or many other Middle Eastern nationalities.

•The bodies were wrapped in the type of plastic bags used only by Americans.

•Their complexions when the bodies are not completely burned and could be inspected are mostly white.

•Their teeth are well maintained unlike those of individuals in poorer countries like Iraq.

The author of the text document claims that interviews with some soldiers and officers who refused to give their names confirmed the identity of soldiers and the validity of the findings, in addition to the Iraqi fishermen who witnessed the dumping of bodies into the river by copters in the early hours of the morning over a long period of time.

JUS translators are currently underway translating this lengthy document which we will make available in its entirety when the work is complete. In between time, you can view the footage by pasting the following link into your browser.


WARNING!!!! Graphic Content Advisory. Do not proceed if you are sensitive to graphic content.

http://www.abolkhaseb.net/media/vedio/shot6.wmv
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:08 AM
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1. It only gets more bizarre, doesn't it?
How will we ever live down the karma this is giving our nation.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:09 AM
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2. You believe this?
Without any confirmation, because you read it on the Internet?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:13 AM
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4. No I don't believe it without confirmation, nor did I say so.
However, I guess I didn't qualify my comment to say that "if this is true". So sorry, but it will be hard to confirm anything like this probably for weeks.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:21 AM
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7. Sorry for jumping on you
I was just surprised that anyone would just assume it was true. I know we've disagreed, but I've never thought of you as being that gullible. But I should have been more patient.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:10 AM
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3. Broken link.
Your link doesn't work. Please get one that works. I want archive copies.
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:16 AM
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5. What is JUS?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:16 AM
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6. I could believe this, but...
the military knows that this war's gonna end someday and that someone's mom is gonna ask, "where's John? He went to war, the war's over, where is he?"

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:32 AM
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8. Exactly right
And there just aren't enough Military people without family ties to make this feasible.

My opinion is it's a bit of spin from the other side. After all, why should they let the Americans do all the fabricating.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:08 AM
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10. foreign mercenaries promised citizenship
"mercenaries who were promised high paying job and in some case US citizenship"

I cannot believe Americans would treat their own dead so cavalierly. But non-American, non-regular combatants - that's a different story. I could see that.



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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:25 PM
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11. I still don't think so
A mercenary who was promised a high-paying job and in some cases US citizenship still has a wife and a mother who will wonder why their husband/son's letters and paychecks stopped coming.

We can't pull this off.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:12 PM
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14. 3rd world nationality mercs are paid much much less. (nt)
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:29 AM
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15. At this point in the evening when you read this, all one can say is please
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 01:33 AM by anarchy1999
let this not be, but you know it to be true in your heart. It's overwhelming. I saved a young Hispanic man from joining last year on the promise of citizenship (he thanked me a few weeks later). Thanks MB for being here.

on edit: I only talked with him because he gave me a military recruiting pen to sign my restaurant bill with. Thankfully that day I had several articles printed off the internet I was reading for lunch that I left with him. Knowledge is key!
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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:12 AM
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16. That's really cool of you.
You might have very well saved his life. That's awesome.
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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:44 AM
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9. A couple of points you might want to realize...
1. There are a lot of Mercs and private security forces in Iraq.

2. You have NOT seen and MIA reports to date of any soldier (US or Merc)

3. I have not seen any casualty counts on any Mercs at all. Have you?
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:02 PM
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12. Many Mexican nationals were/are fighting in Iraq for the US military.
I believe I saw on the news, many months ago, that Mexicans, in particular, are willing to sign up and fight because of the promise of expedited citizenship. In some cases, the citizenship is post mortem, but even then, the families may benefit, or the person signing up to be a soldier may believe he is doing a selfless thing for his family.

At the time of that report, if I remember correctly, there were something like 25,000 foreigners fighting in the US military.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:07 PM
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13. I saw pictures of these on a slug site.
The bodies were tattooed and appeared to be Western. They were in American Body bags. No dog tags if they were soldiers but could have been Mercenaries.

I am not to surprised anymore what you find on WWW.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:28 AM
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17. Here's the same story, different link.
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