DISTURBING VIDEO- soldiers SLAUGHTER (peaceful) crowd

This video is freaking gross but tell me what you make of it, is it fake or not? I would not be suprised if it was real... as far as I'm concerned all (so called) soldiers are guilty of believing they have the right to decide when anothers' life ends.

What does everybody make of this video, apparently it is from the Ivory coast and French (ugh) 'peace-keepers' (if there is such a thing as a peace) opened fire on this group of students?

I don't even see anybody with a weapon in the crowd. warning it is a long download and it is VERY graphic and unedited. Not just graphic it's gross.
When will people learn that we don't need any military and we don't need guns but what we need is understanding of each other?


watch if you dare.

The movie link is here:


http://radioci.embaci.com/englishdownload/frenchsoldiersshootingcivilians2.mpg

Why is France engaging in this type of activity? Is there any way of verifying what troops are doing the shooting? This would go a long way toward damaging French positions in politics. How did you even find this?

It was sent to me via e-mail. I asked a friend of mine if they could confirm that it is real video and that it is actually the french and it is in costa rica. He could not.


I posted here to see if anybody has heard anything about this and to see what everybody else thinks about the video. I don't see that there is a way to tell who the soldiers are?

Besides the low post #s, which isn't necessarily proof that you are a troll, your whole tone sounds like a very calculated stereotype that the right place on the left (the mythical hippies spitting on returning soldiers from Vietnam) of the anti-troop mentality of those opposed to the war in Iraq.

This is in fact the first time I've seen such blatant anti-troop language here (and I read here A LOT) that it got my attention.

We mourn every soldiers loss here. We fight our battles because there are troops sent to fight needless wars, we fight for them, not against them. Anything that happens in Iraq or anywhere is always the fruit of the poison tree of this evil war.

Maybe I'm wrong, and if I am I apologize for being so hostile to a newbie, but my instincts say that you are trying to put words in our mouths that really aren't there.

Who believes that nowadays, no matter where they are on the political spectrum?

That's the sentiment I read in the original post.

And why is everybody being an asshole about this? yeah i'm a new member, because I thought this was a place for progressives, that is why I posted here and if I feel that way about military and the army then that is how I feel, I wasn't aware that I had to sugarcoat my views on this forum and was hoping to be well recieved.... point taken.

Welcome.

and the video is real as far as I can see, the french are denying it's existence....so I am sure the MSM might have orders to not play or discuss it....

very sad sad thing.

Hating troops? I hate that we as a civilized world need any soldiers at all. I do not hate troops. I do not like that they have been 'trained' to believe that the taking of anothers life can be granted to them by the government or a commanding officer. The same thing applys to the death penalty. Should I just not post something I believe relevant? this however applys to all military personell in any country. You can call me anti-soldier or whatever you want to, anti America whatver I've been called worse.

Do you disagree with anything I've said? If so you should reconsider your view of yourself as a 'progressive'.

is getting old with all this shit about hating anything french, now Canada, so you cannot fault me for being a bit leery of a film depicting french soldiers as murders which is how I read your post....

As far as anything having to do with war, none of it is pretty and downright horrific at times considering we only see one percent of what actually goes on behind so called enemy lines. I for one do not believe all soldiers to be so dishonorable nor do I believe all to be honorable...

It is just not so black and white as some honestly believe it all to be...a uniform does not a goodman make nor does it always take away....

These soldiers were drafted and they were there against their will and just doing the honorable thing of 'serving their country' so to speak. But when soldiers are volunteers I honestly have a problem with showing them a whole lot of support, do I respect them as human beings? Of course!... but all humans can be susceptable to a good ad campaign of duty and honor instead of seeing something as killing and murder.

all be seen as murders if you take into account that they are killing someone they have no idea if honestly they need killing, do you see where I am going with this?

All war is about in my mind is killing, sorry, but the rest is all just whitewash, killing enemies and one is considered a hero? Depends on which side one is on wouldn't you say? I am sure the so called insurgents families look at them like they are heroes same as we do our own soldiers..

What a wicked wicked world we live in when the taking of another life is seen to be glorious...

I disagree with "French (ugh)" which makes me wonder if you didn't get a little cross-wired there for a tiny moment.

a myth to my father. And trying to deny a very strong attitude of hostility toward troops in Vietnam is just ignorant, and frankly - offensive to people who did serve and came home and experienced the hostility and alienation. Acting like there was no difference in attitude between when the soldiers were coming home from Vietnam and when the soldiers were coming home from world war II is wrong.

Has history been perverted and twisted by some into an either/or all or nothing version of the 1960s? Yes, certainly. Certainly some hae twisted and distorted reality to turn heroes of the 60s into hate mongers. But let's not place the term "myth" on something that actually did happen to some - like my father.

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Despite some rhetoric the French government/military arent saints either. Fuck almost no governments are.

Because I just can't see anymore of that sick shit right now.

Don't take the negative responses to heart. Nerves are frayed.

I understand completely that is why I put the warning on there, it is very nerve wracking and saddening to watch.

No, this isn't fake. I thought it was at first, as the people didn't run when the shots were being fired.

I think they were mostly firing non-lethal something-or-other?

I'm sitting here crying. That last guy's head was taken away by something lethal.

I know we need more context, but I just don't freaking get it! wtf?

by mobs which were *organized by the government* and armed with machetes.

So even if this is exactly what lexicon089 thinks it is, let's not act as if there isn't some scary context by a sovereign government which considers war so important that it's willing to send lynch mobs against white people to get the French out so it can stomp on rebels with a free hand.

I didn't have the sound on, so I am just going by the video. There is no scene I noticed where the firing was conclusively coming from the white soldiers, but it seems hard to imagine where else it could have come from. One man's head was pretty much shot right off, so I would think that took some major firepower from somewhere. Not a pleasant video to watch.

If it was French soldiers shooting African civilians it will be on Fox repeatedly over the next while, I am sure. Nonetheless, this is going on all the time in Iraq, with U.S. soldiers killing civilians like this. It is worth watching, if you can stand it, to see what a military force shooting at civilians really does. It really brings to reality terms like collateral damage, pacification, security operations, etc.

as far as I could tell. It is however, very edited. Think about it, if you had a camera in a crowd of people that was being shot on, what would you do? Well. I'd run like hell. The camera had to be digital, just because of the weight of carrying something, ya know?
Boy they sure have some nice clothes.

Edit: I still can't get that out of my head.