..."go it alone"...."bring 'em on"....

Your opinion please a couple of questions - after a year of the whistleass's bravado with "....go it alone....", followed by "...bring 'em on..." the whistleass has his hat in hand, munching on some crow as he goes crawling to the UN for help

Soooooo, will this be seen by reich-wingers as "wimping out" and/or "losing face"? If so, how much will this hurt his re-Selection?

Most of us have been screaming that the UN needs to be involved, now that whistleass is going to the UN, will it help his re-selection?

watching various news shows last night, I saw one repug after another doing the spin dance on this, in carefully worded statements implying that the whistleass's plan has always included UN involvment in Iraq...

Those who view the UN as the All-Evil that for some reason has no teeth. They constitute a good 80% of the population, but then again most don't vote either, so assuming he doesn't have a trick up his sleeve (bona-fide dictatorship) he will lose. Even worse if turned down.

will be no way to spin this other than as a total failure of the Bush policy.

And I'm personally very ambivalent about what the outcome should be. I know we need help there - we can't manage the situation. But it would be gratifying (admittedly in a self-serving way) to see the UN say "fuck off - it's your war, you fight it."

But whatever the outcome, it's clearly a failure for Bush. He can't say the UN is irrelevant during the leadup to war and then call on them to pull his ass out of the fire afterward.

Somebody else posted something along the lines that they know the UN request will fail and then they can blame the UN. Tonight on one of the CNN polls on TV they asked who should help in Iraq. The last one was Germany and France. ???? Totally out of nowhere. Why should Germany and France be singled out? When all else fails, blame them. I'm not sure that would work with as many people this time, but maybe enough.

Bush to Seek $60 Billion or More for Iraq
U.S. Floats Plan To Widen U.N. Postwar Role
By Glenn Kessler and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 4, 2003; Page A01

The White House has informed congressional leaders that it is preparing a new budget request for between $60 billion and $70 billion to help cover the mounting costs of the reconstruction and military occupation of Iraq, sources on Capitol Hill said last night.

The planned request -- which congressional budget analysts said will be nearly double what Congress expected -- reflects the deepening cost of the five-month-old U.S. occupation and serves as an acknowledgement by the administration that it vastly underestimated the price tag of restoring order in Iraq and rebuilding its infrastructure.

----snip----

The decisions to seek new funds from Congress and to try to strike a bargain at the United Nations signaled that President Bush is trying to resolve festering disputes over his administration's Iraq policies before they turn into political liabilities. Both the rising cost of the military operations and the failure of the administration to share the peacekeeping burden in Iraq have prompted growing criticism on Capitol Hill and by Democratic presidential candidates.

----snip----heeerrreee's the spin

Administration officials portrayed the initiative as a further evolution of the president's pledge to give the United Nations a "vital role" in the rebuilding of Iraq. But it also marked a reversal for an administration that had once argued that the United Nations would become irrelevant if it failed to back the U.S.-led invasion earlier this year. For the first time, the administration is now indicating a willingness to give other nations a greater say in Iraq's future.

to showcase the fact that our "glorious leader" can think on the run, that he knows when to make policy decisions for the best interests of the country and not be so vain that he'll be hemmed in by ideology. Of course we all know that he just got his ass handed to him, but I'm sure they'll try to put some lipstick on this pig and sell it to the public.

and this week's entertainment will be watching, reading and listening to all of the pundits who attacked the U.N. for being 'irrelevant' for months, now have to do an about face and get in line behind their man.

Should be hilarious.

Maybe we shouldn't have re-named French fries afterall.

ex-General Franks spinning like a top. People applauding. Letterman saying he admired him.
Enough said.