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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:01 PM
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Republicans want to ban fast forwarding
Do you like fast-forwarding through commercials on a television program you’ve recorded? How much do you like it? Enough to go to jail if you’re caught doing it? If a new copyright and intellectual property omnibus bill sitting on Congress’s desk passes, that may be the choice you'll face.

How can this be possible? Because language that makes fast-forwarding through commercials illegal — no doubt inserted at the behest of lobbyists for the advertising industry — was inserted into a bill...

http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/11/wo_hellweg111904.asp?trk=nl

First they came for the TiVo users...

http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/11/first_they_came.html
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:03 PM
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1. Is there enough jail space
for all violaters of this high crime?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:05 PM
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2. too bad the WH doesn't have a FF and RW
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Quill Pen Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:44 PM
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25. Or a Delete
:(
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:05 PM
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3. I can't even envision how they will enforce such an idiotic law...
but I bet they'll have fun trying.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:05 PM
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4. What If You Don't Own A TV - Will That Become A Criminal Offense To?
eom
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:08 PM
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8. undoubtedly
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:10 PM
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11. M-m-m-m-max Headroom, here we come!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:06 PM
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5. Gee, and they tried to scare people in West Virginia
By saying that Democrats were going to ban the Bible. Now, of the two, which do you suppose the average West Virginian has used more recently -- the Bible or fast forwarding through commercials on a recorded program?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:39 PM
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21. How many TV's are IN West Virginia? (jk)
Maybe if advertisers produced more interesting commercials...
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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:06 PM
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6. They'll have to take remote from my "From my cold, dead hands"
n/t
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:08 PM
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9. "shakes head"
The New N.R.A=== National Remote Association.

In all seriousness, that makes my list of dumbest things ever. That's becoming to be one long list as of late also.
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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:13 PM
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15. "National Remote Association" - LMFAO
n/t
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:08 PM
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7. A law that one MUST watch commercials broadcast on public airways
or transmitted via a service the individual has paid for already?

Bwahahaha! That law would last about fifteen minutes if they ever got it passed.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:09 PM
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10. How could they possibly enforce something like that?
I suppose they could remove the fast-forward buttons from all future machines ... but then that would mean the government is FORCING people to watch commercial advertising. I know this crew would have no problem doing that, but it's stupid shit like this that's going to piss off the masses to the point where they'll stop being complacent.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:13 PM
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16. They already do this on DVD
Some of the low-end porn companies make it impossible to skip the commercials at the beginning of the disk.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:24 PM
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18. I know that ...
and it's not just porn. I own several indie films on DVD and I can't skip the ads, but there's a big difference between a company trying to make some money and the GOVERNMENT forcing people to watch commercial advertising.
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lucabrasi Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:42 PM
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23. Roll your own DVDs
There is software available that lets you rip, convert, and burn your own DVDs. My burner was around $100 and I get blank DVDs for around 33 cents each. I have some with this same "feature" and I just remove them and make a more friendly backup copy.

Of course decrypting a DVD in this manner is "illegal" and I certainly don't want to encourage anyone to break this "law".

:eyes:
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:10 PM
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12. Republicans just want to ban everything
Fast-forwarding, abortion, gay marriage, fellatio, and masturbation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1384497
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:12 PM
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13. Total content control
This is about mind control. They want to make a constant feed of propaganda, and they want to enforce it. This is straight out of Fahrenheit 451. Anybody remember the ear pieces? The huge TV rooms? This IS every single political commentary novel all rolled into one. I just hope that moderates and Democrats fight this shit.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:12 PM
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14. More likely lobbyists for broadcast networks
Advertising is like water--dam it up one place and it'll just find another place to go. That's why agencies are beefing up online and alternative media capabilities. Ad agencies and their clients could survive without TV commercials, but networks can't. Ad revenue is the network's lifeblood, so they're the ones that will spend the lobbying money and influence to do something like this.
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lucabrasi Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:14 PM
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17. MythTV
Basically a free, open source, tivo on steroids. The auto-skip commercials feature is pretty reliable.

www.mythtv.org

Still pretty geeky to get going, but it gets better with each release.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:27 PM
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19. This is why I love the web
You post some asinine thing the Repubs are up to - and within a half-hour someone posts a link to open-source software that defeats the Repubs again!

"The internet routes around censorship!"

I guess it routes around force viewing of commercials too!

Thanks, lucabrasi!
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lucabrasi Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:35 PM
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20. Never underestimate an army of open source geeks
with very strong beliefs in "free as in speech" software.
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Quill Pen Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:40 PM
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22. When they play "Alice's Restaurant" on the radio in a couple of days...
...take a minute to imagine the fast-forwarders sitting on that bench with all the father-rapers and mother-stabbers, and the meanest, ugliest one comes over to one of the fast-forwarders and says, "Kid, what were you arrested for?" And when the mother-rapers and father-stabbers find out, they all scoot away from the fast-forwarders on the bench.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:43 PM
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24. no more insane
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:45 PM by Djinn
than buying the "rights" to seed stock, trade-marking it and pushing farmers into debt and dependancy (way to bring in new-feudalism) actually it's a lot less insane as one result in poverty, subservience and starvation the other people's eyes glazing over for a fwe minutes. Strangely these are the same people that bang on about "freedom"
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