The real question that conservative christians for Bush.

Many of these people in their arrogance, including Bush himself, believe that God is on their side. THey believe that they have the divine mandate to change this country and they think that anybody who does not agree with them is not worthy of anything. But Abraham Lincoln has said "I am not concerned about whether God is on our side. I just want to know if we are on God's side." So, to the conservative Christians, I want to say this. In your self-righteousness, you maintain that God is on your side. The Republican side. Mr. Bush, if you could think for even 5 minutes, you would realize that God is not on your side, because he is not beholden to you. You should be asking yourself if you are on God's side. All of you conservative Christians should know that it is not about what side God is on. It is about what side you are on. And if you would get over your self-righteousness, you would realize that.

... bravo to you. Well said. Were you, by chance, reading my mind?

Seems like it to me, but I can't remember where and when it was. At the convention?

God's side of the story. Bush is well, he is on the other side of the story. He's satan's hero.:evilgrin:

of this lecture I went to see last night where the speaker said that many in this country saw themselves as "God's chosen people". I don't even need to explain what's wrong with that idea. Arrogance does not bode well for this country. Sure we were founded on a certain amount of arrogance but this is far too much.

coming very soon. They are actually hoping for policies that will bring it on. Bush meets with people that belong to a group that is working for Armageddon policy fairly frequently. This is one reason why the environment did not get a big rise out of people. They believe the environment needs to be used up so to speak as one of these policies. There are many others- The Jews have to have all of their orignal land back is another one. THe Left Behind series is supposed to be one big RW talking point (I haven't read them)

that believe the earth is only 5,000 years old too. I don't get this Armageddon crap. I think you have to be a complete moron to think that way. First of all if you ever study astronomy, geology, plus all of the incredible complex systems that are operating in, on and around this planet and have been for billions of years, it is soooooo ridiculous to think that the consciousness that is creating this is one day going to judge what it's created based on some behavior of humans and blow up the whole thing.

I'm sorry but they are the weakest link.

"Manifest destiny"
Here's from http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/m1/manifest.asp
Related: United States History

belief held by many Americans in the 1840s that the United States was destined to expand across the continent, by force, as used against Native Americans, if necessary. The controversy over slavery further fueled expansionism, as the North and South each wanted the nation to admit new states that supported its section's economic, political, and slave policies. By the end of the 19th cent., this belief was used to support expansion in the Caribbean and the Pacific.

Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition, Copyright (c) 2004.

Or, we could look at it another way. The language is from 1839 and likely includes only certain people with rights (white male). Still, it may be worth reflection.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/osulliva.htm

Excerpted from "The Great Nation of Futurity," The United States Democratic Review, Volume 6, Issue 23, pp. 426-430. by John L. O'Sullivan on Manifest Destiny, 1839 The complete article can be found in The Making of America Series at Cornell University

"The American people having derived their origin from many other nations, and the Declaration of National Independence being entirely based on the great principle of human equality, these facts demonstrate at once our disconnected position as regards any other nation; that we have, in reality, but little connection with the past history of any of them, and still less with all antiquity, its glories, or its crimes. On the contrary, our national birth was the beginning of a new history, the formation and progress of an untried political system, which separates us from the past and connects us with the future only; and so far as regards the entire development of the natural rights of man, in moral, political, and national life, we may confidently assume that our country is destined to be the great nation of futurity. ...

"America is destined for better deeds. It is our unparalleled glory that we have no reminiscences of battle fields, but in defence of humanity, of the oppressed of all nations, of the rights of conscience, the rights of personal enfranchisement. Our annals describe no scenes of horrid carnage, where men were led on by hundreds of thousands to slay one another, dupes and victims to emperors, kings, nobles, demons in the human form called heroes. We have had patriots to defend our homes, our liberties, but no aspirants to crowns or thrones; nor have the American people ever suffered themselves to be led on by wicked ambition to depopulate the land, to spread desolation far and wide, that a human being might be placed on a seat of supremacy...

"For this blessed mission to the nations of the world, which are shut out from the life-giving light of truth, has America been chosen; and her high example shall smite unto death the tyranny of kings, hierarchs, and oligarchs, and carry the glad tidings of peace and good will where myriads now endure an existence scarcely more enviable than that of beasts of the field. Who, then, can doubt that our country is destined to be the great nation of futurity? ..."

So much for the history lesson.
Happy Thanksgiving!

they have no right to call themselves followers of Christ.Call them what they are. parasites

As an example, here's my theory on why these people so violently oppose gay marriage. You see, allowing gay people, who are "inferior" to the chosen ones, to marry would make the gay folks, essentially, equal to the "chosen ones". We can't have that now, can we?