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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:28 PM
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"Courting Disaster" -- understanding the other side
http://www.cbn.com/partners/courtingDisaster/

CBN stands for Christian Broadcasting Network, btw....

And I came across this by accident, but I found it interesting, because I'm really trying to understand the mentality of people who would support the current regime.

It seems sincere, but completely misguided. I'm just posting this, because I thought others who are interested in understanding the "religious-right" may find this material useful.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:30 PM
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1. Just read "Animal Farm," it's all you need to know regarding
"christians" and their insatiable lust for dominance and wealth.
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:33 PM
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3. Just in case
you are interested, a link to an online version of 1984 and Animal Farm....

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell

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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:10 PM
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5. Thanks for the link.
I've actually never read Animal Farm and it's probably long overdue for me to do so.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:23 PM
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10. Pat Robertson, yes
Not "Christians"
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:32 PM
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2. I've been watching him since the late '80s
he's someone people should become familiar with.

Another is www.falwell.com. This is Jerry Falwell's site. You can also sign up to receive free weekly emails from him. Been getting them for a couple years and saving them off. They're quite the read.

AND :party: WELCOME TO DU!! :party:
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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:19 PM
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7. My first welcome.
Thank you very much.

I came across this site while looking for info on electoral fraud, and I just want to stop Bush ASAP. If possible, I don't even want it to get to the inauguration on Jan. 20, 2005. That cheating mofo needs to go, and it saddens me that anyone supported Bush.

I mean, WTF?



But w/ that said, I have Christian friends who are really good people, but when I talked to them after the election, they seemed slightly favorable toward Bush. They actually hate politics in general and didn't vote, and they're not fundamentalists either... But if the church could way my friends' opinions like that...

It just pisses me off.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:54 PM
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4. It's called 'projection.'
People suspect others of what they themselves long to do.

But note that has been effective cover so far for the RRR's attempts to turn the U.S. into a theocracy.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:13 PM
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6. One of the big things that I notice
about radical fundamentalism is an insatiable need to see themselves as martyrs, and victims of persecution. They want to feel like they are under siege and the whole rest of the country if not the world is against them, or out to destroy them. The radical clerics cultivate that sense in their flock, even when they have achieved an absolutely unprecedented level of political and cultural power.

I think it is important to try to understand these people's mentality, not so we can try to win their votes, (we won't get them anyway, and we wouldn't want them because we would have to destroy who we are to get them) but simply because we have to understand our enemy in order to combat it effectively. I honestly do see them as the enemy. I don't think I have any more in common with them than I do with the Taliban. It's certain that they feel the same, even more strongly, about us. They think that we are actual minions of Satan.

There are other Bush voters who can and must be reached, but not this group.

Welcome to DU.:hi:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:21 PM
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8. Robem$ome is just another radical cleric like Colson, Falwell, Omar
you know, fundamentalist nutball shearers.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:40 PM
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9. Oh boy my mom would hate this so much
she was so vehemently anti fundamentalism and boy did she hate this manipulative stuff.

The mentality is this, as far as I can figure it out anyway:

If you are Christian (by their definition) then everything has to be according to the Word (selectively applied of course, no stoning here). So these guys go around appealing to the fact that the Word is at risk of being eliminated in our nation. (hope this makes sense)

These are the types of churches that KNOW they are right and everybody else is wrong, and if you weren't baptized in their personal little immersion pool you are definitly not worthy.

(Mama used to say they were in for some big surprises, should they get to Heaven)

Ergo, they fall for this stuff like kids over candy. I know for a fact that during the Clinton administration there were petitions going around this one church because my mother told me so. She blew up in the face of one of the members over it too. "nobody tells ME how I am going to vote!"

(She only went to this church because my dad had died, and my youngest sister married into this church {they never have gotten my sister to be dunked in their pool, either!!!!!stubborn little Methodist, that one})

Mom went to her grave hating Nixon, McCarthy, Shrub and all who persecuted Bill Clinton. And probably not forgiving me for being born in 1948 and keeping her from being able to vote for Truman, since my birthday was too close to election time and she was still in the hospital)

Never you mind, they are making millions on these books, and somehow keeping the tax free status on the institutions. Robertson may even have a separate corp for the publications arm which does pay taxes ..
somehow they are getting away with it.
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