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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:16 PM Original message |
Are comparisons between the U.S. and Nazi Germany valid? |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well - hmm - the German voters never actually gave Hitler a majority. |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Sorry, but: they did. |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. They gave the Nazi Party more seats in the Reichtag. |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Hitler was elected. |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Are you sure about that? I thought Hitler was appointed. |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I am sure. I am German. |
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Winamericaback (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Here you go: |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. reply |
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Winamericaback (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I wasn't |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. It´s difficult to calm down at this for us. |
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ReneB (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
97. solltest du nicht |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Winamericaback, that was very informative. (n/t). |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
96. Correct |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. And then the Reichstag fire |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I hate to say this: |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. So far, in the early stages, there are sickeningly similar parallels. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. You're currently making the wrong comparisons |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
61. If you had bothered |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, they first came for Padilla and Hamdi |
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one_true_leroy (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's what is scariest... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. First of all, I do know a modest amount of history. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a silly question. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. Deleted message |
K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Does it matter where silliness flows from? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Oh for pity's sake. |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think this link might help you - signs of a facist government |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Seems to be |
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Winamericaback (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. Fascism |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. Between the potential economic meltdown and the use of fear of terrorism |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. Can I really envision death camps in this country? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The Japanese Internment Camps were not "Death Camps" |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Free to come and go?! |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Study the history a bit more. |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "but it was NOT the same as what the Nazis did." |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. How Malkin-esque. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. I think there was paranoia and racism at work, yes. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. This really bugs me, there is nothing wrong with comparing things. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Okay. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
60. I did not say that they were death camps. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Actually, the electric chair buns people to death from the inside |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. I was also going to include this |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. No witches were burned at Salem |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. People would rather believe in the myth of riteousness |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. So my therapist tells me |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. Thanks for the clarification. n/t |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. How about Imperial Japan? |
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Reality Not Tin Foil (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. No, they're moronic... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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Reality Not Tin Foil (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I have a close friend (Basically family member) who survived the Nazis! |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. You are the one being disrespectful. |
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Reality Not Tin Foil (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. The use of Nazi deaths to spread propaganda against our political enemies. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Nobody is doing that, so back off. |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. You might need some tin foil. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Perhaps this will help. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
83. And have you asked that friend what they think of today's Amerika? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Why dont you show some REAL respect for the people who died |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. We're not comparing Nazis at their height |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. Are comparisons between you and an ostrich valid? |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. No Gernany only had weaponry equivalent to Iraq |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
22. To quote Kennedy-JFK |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. On the subject of death camps, the worst ones were not |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. Fascism is fascism. |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. A short piece from a blog |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. You couldn't have asked this question.... |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Link to the existing thread? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Judging from the responses here |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. Most posts are in comparison to Fascists ( mine included) |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. Just my opinion but, |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Nah, there will never be more Nazi's |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. If and when they ever try to take the next step |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. Prescott (Grampa)Bush made alot of his money by supporting Hitler |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. the political tactics used by both people |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
68. I would tend to agree with you. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. LOL. Thanks for your wise words and |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
69. perhaps if you were black or gay or muslim or iraqi |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Oh, please |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. If you dont have a point of view, you need to reanalyze your writing style |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. not that there's too much of it |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. It requires passionate intensity to do historical comparison? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. It's just a tad arrogant of you |
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fugue (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Let me see if I follow you . . . |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. you are actually in the minority of posts |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. how can you be so convinced about what other people feel? |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. I highly recommend you read "Friendly Fascism"... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Thank you. I look forward to reading |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
78. we have a powerful advantage |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. as per usual, m berst |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. hey hhn |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
81. Comparing is not equating. |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
84. No |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
85. Yes, the bush regime is the new American Nazi party. Sure, there are |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
91. Of course not. How could you even think such a thing? (sarcasm) |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
93. I know alot of you have seen this before |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Good One,,,,,and another: |
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PrisonerLazy8 (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
99. No |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
100. AB-SO-FRICKIN'-LUTELY |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
101. No parallels???? |
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