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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:03 PM
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Why are freepers so obsessed with Dan Rather?
Call me thick, but what is it about Dan Rather that so bothers them? :shrug:

It's like they've been after him for years? :shrug:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:07 PM
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1. he's to the left of Francisco Franco and occasionally exposes
the putrid, fetid corruption of the conservatives.
That's enough for calls for resignation (or assassination, I guess), as are unfounded allegations by Chalabi and the New York Post.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:21 PM
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4. They are ignorant and frustrated but don't want to blame George
so they attack anyone who the mediawhores label. They used the swiftboat liars to attack Kerry and Rather. They attacked Rather for the document, not the truth behind the document or the interview with the TAFR General's secretary. Notice they will not even look past this 73-year old Journalists recent AWOL outing. They don't care that he covered Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran standing with those countries fighters long before anyone ever heard of 9/11. He spent much time on the ground with our troops while George was sniffing the white powder and Dicky was scrambling up the ladder to wealth. He is like Helen Thomas.....trashed and ignored ignoring the wealth of history and information they can relate to our citizenery.


Their sons and daugthers, husbands, wives and even grandfather's will be going to Iraq....they will not be immune, because they supported Georgie and Company. They know they have been had, but they can't take responsibility for their actions, just like their fearless AWOL/deserter leader never took responsibility for his actions.
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:18 PM
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2. He's a liberal...
and he HATES the whole Bush family.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:20 PM
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3. it goes back to Nixon
rather cut his teeth covering the Nixon white house and was hostile to tricky dick back then. The GOP has a long memory.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:30 PM
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11. I thought...
you had to have a brain with a functioning synapse or two to have a memory.


Personally, I think their obsessions are time-fillers between more physical masturbatory interludes. Can't you just see the scene when Mom comes home and opens the cellar door and asks:"Whatcha doin'?"


"Um...er...letting Rather have it, Mom. Is that pizza I smell?"

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:19 PM
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5. They want to know what the frequency is
Good question.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:28 PM
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6. They are brainwashed by Fox
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:36 PM
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7. I have the answer
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 09:45 PM by Cats Against Frist
They get this shit directly from their handlers -- Rush, Hannity, etc. What Rush and Hannity says comes from the elitist intellectual right wing.

You remember the quote from the Suskind article about the Bush aide who says that discernable reality isn't the way that the world works anymore and that the administration are "history's actors who create new realities."

The object is to completely dislodge the perceived "objectivity" of the media -- even though we all know it's biased, it's definitely not extreme right-wing propaganda -- but they're trying to dislodge even the notion, so they can slip the echo chamber in as "the new objectivity."

Remember, right now, most people with one working brain cell know that Rush and Hannity are just bullshitting infotainment slingers, and peddlers of right-wing propaganda -- but, eventually, over time -- and believe me, these guys can have their eye on the distant future -- if the model of objective journalism is removed or discredited, they can slip in their operatives in place.

True story. Keep your eyes on these motherfuckers. This is why they're so obsessed with the NYT, as well -- and it is the reason that it is smart for them to keep the "liberal media" myth, alive.

***on edit: If you're going to "shift reality," the first thing you have to do away with is modernity, from which stems the scientific method, as well as the notion of "objectivity." I have studied with extreme right-winger political philosophy teachers, and they don't want to have anything to do with modernity, particularly the Catholic hard right, who people don't think about, but who make the fundies look like Marylin Manson.

The philosophical alternatives to modernity are postmodernism and classicism -- and they don't want to have anything to do with postmodernism, either -- though, interestingly, their attempts to "shift" reality underscore some of postmodernism's points about subjectivity -- the right want's God and the noble birth or the philosopher king -- it all ties in with the Straussians and Plato and everything.

I know a lot of people are scared of the GOP -- but if you know this other shit -- you're REALLY fucking scared of them.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:17 PM
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13. Exactly. The control of the media is their first priority
They have some control over the mainstream media right now, but they need total control and that total control needs to be under cover of mainstream media.

Control of the media means control of reality.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:46 PM
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8. He was the last standing voice of Truth
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 10:02 PM by dweller
in the MSM.

come March it will all become Goebbelsian.

"Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to an understanding that will allow them to
willingly and without internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a superior leadership. If
propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is
determined by the goals it seeks."
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb59.htm


soon on all news channel near you,
dp
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:59 PM
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9. They're irrational and........
they hold a grudge till they die.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:22 PM
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10. Every damn night on Scarface Country (MSRNC)
Buchanan acts like Rather committed a crime, and he's OBSESSED -- I tell you, OBSESSED -- with the notion that Rather never "apologized to the President of the United States."

Sick sick shit.

Bake
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:45 PM
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12. try this experiment, Darth
ask ANY asshole conservative you know for examples of liberal media and you will always ALWAYS hear the same tired three names - Rather, Browkaw, Jennings. Really, try it.
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