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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:14 PM
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Is the 9/11 event a Manufactured Incident like the Reichstag Fire
and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident?

Nearly forty years after the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, McNamara revealed that it was manufactured to give Johnson the pretext needed to bomb North Vietnam.

Although the origin of the Reichstag Fire has never been unraveled, Goering has been known to have remarked about how effective it was as a pretext to launch the invasion of Poland.

Now the conventional wisdom would have us believe that it was the incompetence of our administration that let the disaster of 9/11 happen.Knowing how it gave the perfect pretext for launching a war against the Muslims/Arabs , it should come as no surprise if and when it is revealed that a completely different version of reality exists.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:16 PM
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1. Strictly, no.
But it was used for the same purposes once it did happen.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:17 PM
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2. Playing catch up?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:23 PM
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3. Reichstag fire nothing to do with the invasion of Poland; that was 5
years later

Reichstag fire enabled the Nazis to force the Reichstag to vote the 'enabling acts' (?)....gave Hitler the power to suspend the equivalent of the constitution and rule by executive order

study up on 9-11...many at DU think it was either LIHOP or MIHOP ie let it happen on purpose or made it happen on purpose...9-11 forum is in the 'left over forums' group
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:25 PM
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4. Yes, it most definitely was. Do some research, the evidence is there
Just like the Kennedy assasination was a scam, so too was 9/11. America is incredibly corrupt.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:32 PM
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5. Manufactured on many complex levels.
Either MIHOP worst case scenario or LIHOP. I'm not sure which. Actually I doubt they were smart enough to pull off MIHOP but could be wrong.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:37 PM
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6. U.S. Military drafted Plans to Terrorized U.S. cities to provoke war.
Operation Northwoods just keeps coming to mind. Never gets steam.
Friendly Fire Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba <http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html> Not familiar with this next source, but it links to the original Northwoods documents from the joint chiefs (pdf form). <http://www.darrendixon.supanet.com/operationnorthwood.htm> Culture and Life : Operation Northwoods and the two towers The US economy is in deep, deep trouble. It is in fact galloping headlong towards an economic abyss, and it's going to drag the rest of us over the edge with it. by Rob Gowland 11:18pm Fri Oct 12 '01 And a 3rd article: <http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430> / SNIP...."April 30, 2001 SNIP.."In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”...."

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:24 PM
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7. Yes, it was a "manufactured incident"
Read Michael Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon." 9/11 was not an "intelligence failure" it was an "intelligence success." Ruppert names Cheney as the prime suspect due to the number of war games and hijacking scenarios being played out on 9/11 that confused FAA. Why do you think no one knew what was going on? Does anyone believe we are that defenseless? What many do not know is that both Cheney and Rumsfeld have been tightly imbedded within the most highly classified workings of the National Security State sense Reagan named them to lead two of three (extra Constitutional) chains of succession in case of nuclear attack. We are dealing with high level secure command communications structures that surpass FAA/Military.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:27 PM
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8. Yes, they needed 9/11 to launch their Middle East agenda.
The PNAC blatantly calls for it and they got it. Coincidence? I think not.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:51 PM
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9. Just ask yourself who benefitted from 9/11?
there is one answer: PNAC.

America is such a bunch of mealy cowards that they handed the keys to the democracy over to these mealy fascists because of 9/11.

9/11 was a spectacular success for them. WAY beyond their wildest imaginings I'm sure.

Who'da think America could be destroyed with one blow?

Because it certainly was destroyed. America as we used to know it has quietly died.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:06 PM
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10. Yah think?
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