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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:50 PM
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I think Aldous Huxley's Brave New World was better at predicting our
current situation than Orwell's 1984.While Orwell looked at the future where people did what they were asked to do with reluctance and rebelliousness, Huxley correctly predicted that we will not merely succumb to totalitarianism willingly but actually come to enjoy it.

One of the greatest achievements of our system as it stands is to make it unthinkable for anyone to even speculate about the motives of our current rulers.Anything other than noble intentions simply cannot be ascribed to them.This sets a limit to our discourse and we willingly submit to it.Anyone who goes outside these limits is immediately labeled a CT.The Soviets who thought they had perfected a system of thought control cannot even hold a candle to our system.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:55 PM
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1. Zamyatin is better than Huxley, IMO
he wrote earlier and was still able to pinpoint where superpowers would measure their egos.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:56 PM
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2. Any references or links, please?
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:20 AM
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8. um, i've just got a copy of his book, We
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 12:21 AM by WMliberal
an EXCELLENT read. sorry, i don't have a link to the entire text online.

Both Huxley AND Orwell site Yevgeny Zamyatin as the litereary inspiration for their famous works.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:57 PM
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3. Huxley did better.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:09 AM
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4. the kink in their plan
is the internet, and our ability to gather information. we need a plan B for when they attack this.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:11 AM
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5. Actually I'd pick "A Handmaid's Tale".
It's got that old time creationist swing.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:12 AM
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6. I have said this too.
Huxley's vision is one of capitalism taken to it's worst extreme.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:13 AM
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7. Thank you for bringing up BNW...
it was perhaps a little more subtle than 1984, which is probabaly why it hit me harder. What really hit home was "our part" as "good, patriotic consumers". We could sit here and argue all day whether Huxley, Orwell, Rand, or Hitler had the closest prophesy. The thing is, they all predicted this! KEEP BRINGING THESE ISSUES UP! The reason the Nazi party won in Germany - the German people thought "oh, nothing horrible like that could happen HERE!"

But, why am I not surprised: "History is merely a list of surprises. It can only prepare us to be surprised yet again." - Kurt Vonnegut

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Rjnerd Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:09 AM
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9. Much more obscure, but keeps coming to mind
John Brunner's "The Sheep Look Up"
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