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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:13 AM
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Those who accuse fox news of being a GOP outfit have it wrong
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 01:14 AM by Tony_FLADEM

People are right to accuse Fox of having a bias - but it isn't a political bias.

Their agenda is to promote policies that help rich people and big corporations. Rupert Murdoch could care less if the Democrats or Republicans are in power.

Fox is sympathetic to the GOP because the policies of the Republican party tend to favor the aforementioned groups Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are trying to advance.

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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:14 AM
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1. I think you're right
I think FOX would be happy with, say, Lieberman or Zell Miller.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:17 AM
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2. That's why I object
to calling the media "conservative". These news corporations couldn't care less about abortion rights, same-sex marriage,fiscal responsibility, etc. The only thing the corporations know and care about is the almighty dollar. Corporate media is a much better description than conservative media, IMHO
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:19 AM
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3. Well Said
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:20 AM
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4. "Corporate Media" -- NOT 'mainstream', 'conservative,' 'liberal'
CORPORATE MEDIA
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:27 AM
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5. Check out the Flick Outfoxed
Fox is about neo conservative Fascism and the selling out of our country.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:29 AM
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6. Murdock isn't just going alone for the ride
he is part of the wagon,the rest of the media corps are just enjoying the profits of making cheap shows with big returns.
What is frightening is the Wall-mart kids and Murdock's kids are going to be alot like "W" some day.A ruling class that will make the old robber barons look like angels.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:45 AM
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11. Well...
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 01:46 AM by gorbal
both Wall-mart and Faux news are doing crappy business lately, so there is some hope.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:34 AM
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7. I have to disagree...
.. they hate all things DEM. FAUX News was created during the Clinton era with only one goal in mind, nail Clinton, bury the DEMs and set the stage for the next so many election thefts! I watched it from it's inception, and when they knew they could completely get away with the bullshit propaganda, they went full force and here we are now.

Stupid people who watched it back then who are easily influenced bought in to their shit, while guys like me who could see through it are here to bitch about them today.

The GOP pulls the strings, and they know that they have the backing of * and can get away with anything. JM .02!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:47 AM
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18. I remember how the Faux News so called journalists
behaved during the Clinton presidency and it was downright nauseating the way he was treated. He was vilified to the point that I couldn't watch that station anymore. And now that President Dumbass is here, you don't hear them say anything negative about that sorry ass bastard. Fucking hypocrites!
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:36 AM
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8. media is suppose to give us the real news, not filtered
for theirs or anyones purpose. Fox news is republican news just like rush is republican radio. They should no longer be considered main stream media nor be allowed to broadcast on my tv. That goes for all of the news companies who seem to want to ignore that our country is in big fucking trouble, we have no democracy, and we are being ran by an idiot. Until they want to report all of the news, they are not news but gop outlets
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:44 AM
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10. I haven't turned on Faux Since The Election
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 01:45 AM by Erika
Nor will I again. Just waiting for the stats to show up.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:43 AM
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9. Not true
Rupert Murdoch was the mastermind behind many republicans campaigns. He is also a mastermind behind George Bush's campaign but now has a news media to push the agenda!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:41 PM
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21. Hi Pam-Moby!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:45 PM
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22. thanks for the welcome
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 01:48 PM by Pam-Moby
Great to be here Newyawker 99:bounce:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:18 AM
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12. You are correct...
if you look at Fox's sister channels in the UK and Australia, there are different biases at work. They're not about the conservative agenda, they're about Rupert's agenda.

Which is why you NEVER hear a peep about China.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:53 AM
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24. Maybe it's just Monday, but can you elaborate on the China agenda?
Does Murdoch have big investments there or something? Thanks!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:27 AM
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13. My understanding is that Murdoch
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 02:29 AM by ailsagirl
is a "staunch Republican Conservative."

At least, that is how he is characterized in the many articles I have read about him.

He despises liberals (and, believe me, vice versa)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:34 AM
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14. they pander to the gansters in control.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 02:36 AM by bullimiami
sickening.

its not just fox, its all of the media now
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:36 AM
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15. I honestly think that FauxNews, like most r/w outlets
would prefer a Democratic Presidency because it would give them more to be 'indignant' about over the next 4 years.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:38 AM
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16. You could be right but it just so happens that I watched "Outfoxed"
today and saw how their bias was shown through and through. It is somewhat political with Murdoch because of the fact that he adored Ronald Reagan and wished and every single soul in America did.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:46 AM
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17. It's always been the case....
It's logical. Corporations run the news, so they edit the news to the advantage of thier owners.

The whole liberal/conservative is a fallacy. It's whoever sucks the corporate cock, and both parties are pretty well practiced at it.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:53 AM
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19. The people that script Faux News,
and the people that script the Republican Party (and to a lesser extent the Democratic Party(DLC)) are THE SAME PEOPLE! The people who hold this power are represented at the WTO and the IMF.

Fox News and george bush* are their puppets.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:12 AM
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20. If That Were True, They Wouldn't Whore for Booosh So Much
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 03:13 AM by AndyTiedye
Booosh has been TERRIBLE for business, unless
the business is run by his or Cheney's friends. The stock market tanked,
the deficit is off the charts, the dollar is in free-fall, prices for
gasoline and other commodities are skyrocketing, and the specter of
stagflation -- high interest rates and high inflation -- hangs over
the economy. Our relationships with trading partners are at an all-time
low, with rumblings of "Boycott America" coming from all over. Many are
already avoiding US goods even in the absence of a formal boycott.

The best President for making rich people richer in living memory was Bill Clinton.
He made almost everybody else richer too -- so much the better --
that's how we had such a nice boom for so long.

He brought stability, peace and prosperity, budget surpluses
for the first time in a generation, a soaring stock market,
what's not to like?

What Bush* and Murdoch are doing is buying the government.
It isn't capitalism or democracy anymore when someobody buys the government.
It is more of a christo-fascist oligarchy that operates for the
benefit of the cabal of fundies and robber barons who own it.



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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:27 AM
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23. Yeah, we got it all wrong!
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 10:28 AM by all_hail_gwb


*note fireworks in the graphic! If it were Kerry, there'd be a grim reaper or tombstones. JM .02
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:00 AM
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25. So, do you work for them or what?
Watch "Outfoxed" - then you will see that Murdick is a neo-con!
Cousin Bushie called Florida on election night 2000 before votes in --Faux called Ohio & the election in 2004 before anyone else, before votes in.

If you say it often enough, people will believe it!
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:21 PM
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28. Absolutely Correct
Watch "Outfoxed" if you have any doubts that Murdoch and his network are an integral part of the RNC propaganda and misinformation machine.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:52 AM
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26. This is true of ALL corporate media. The difference with FOXnews is:
That FOXnew adds their conservative bias IN ADDITION to the natural coproate bias of corporate media.

It's a double whammy.

All you have to do is watch "Outfoxed" or do a little basic reading to see that FOX news has a clear association with and bias towards the Republcian party. In fact, Murdoch has point blank said so, and said he was not ashamed to be running a "conservative" network.

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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:07 PM
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27. I disagree.
I would watch Fox more during the Clinton era and noticed how he and Gore were trashed on that network compared to others, then when Whistleass came along, they treat him like the second coming of christ. According to Fox, Bush can do no wrong. Fox News is as conservative republican as they come. It's so obvious.

You should watch the video "Outfoxed".
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:25 PM
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29. He supports conservatives because he is one
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 01:25 PM by K-W
that is simply a fact supported by massive amounts of evidence in the public record. He is not just a pragmatic business man, he believes in the Bush worldview.

Fox follows the political bent of Rupert Murdoch, which does largely parrallel the interests of the wealthy, since Rupert Murdoch is wealthy, but he is just as likely to take a side that benefits his company at the expense of other wealthy people.

He is also an idealogue. While his ideals are informed by his class and position, he isnt just looking out for business, he is much much worse in that he IS a movement conservative. He buys into a radical worldview and that does influence Fox News.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:33 PM
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30. The GOP is a corporate outfit. Not much difference really
Same outcome.
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