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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:46 AM
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Picketers Armed With Knives, Bats and Clubs Arrested at OH Aluminum Plant
Maybe they should have held signs and chanted?

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB87OUI22E.html

Ten striking factory workers armed with knives, bats and clubs were arrested after attempting to block vans entering an Ormet Corp. aluminum plant, police said.

The picketers were charged Friday with violating a court order requiring them to stay at least 2,000 feet away from the plant's entrance, Monroe County Sheriff Manifred Keylor said in a statement.

Additional charges of resisting arrest and assaulting law enforcement officers were pending, the statement said.

Police said they seized various weapons from the picketers, including a sledgehammer, an ax, knives, baseball bats and wooden clubs.

Danny Longwell, a local steelworkers union representative, said picketers blocked the vans because they believed they were carrying replacement workers into the plant on Friday. A call to the union seeking additional comment Saturday was not immediately returned.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:48 AM
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1. that sound you hear is...that other shoe droping
it will be a long winter, a long lean winter...

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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:54 AM
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6. yep.

People think that Roe v. Wade is what the RWers have their real sights set on, but they're wrong. Labor is where the real crosshairs are.


MDN


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:55 AM
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7. I also see this as the begining of something else
so it begins, the shoe dropped today, in more than one sense...

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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:06 AM
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12. remember this day - Novermber 27th, 2004
One of the guys was named John Brown.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:14 AM
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16. Ok ok this woudl be way too much of a coincidence
;-)

And if this was the case, it woudl be missed by the thugs in charge... all apololigies to any other thugs.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:12 AM
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15. ugly picture emerging.

Crush the union movement, gut public services for the poor, run the economy into the ground, then use the military to absorb the newly-dispossessed. Then start more wars ...


MDN


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:16 AM
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17. Only problem with plans
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 03:17 AM by nadinbrzezinski
is that they usually break when you make contact wiht the enemy... but this would be a well known axiom by those with military experience or those who chose to defer to those with such. None in the administration qualifies as any of the above.

So this may be a mmistake on their part, and they may yet rue the day...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:51 AM
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23. and of course the rich are ready an willing to buy up foreclosed
property for pennies on the dollar..

Calm down everyone, it's just capital returning to the rightful owners...the rich..
They just let us "use it for a few generations"...they want it back now.:(

Crushing unions, getting total control of all media, co-opting the education of the next generation...It's all just part of the longterm plan..
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:10 AM
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24. Today's local headlines: "Ormet Workers Demand Union Members' Release"
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:07 AM
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26. Duplicate?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:49 AM
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2. Were they aluminum bats or wooden bats?
Aluminum prices are way up,as are all commodities.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:51 AM
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4. wooden bats
cheap, American made, and just as effective at hardball. Boston this year, damn!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:50 AM
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3. Ouch.
Our Guys.

Driven to despair.

Acting like thugs. Confirming the worst fears of both the Right ... and our own.

Is this what it looks like? ... darkness falling in America?

--p!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:53 AM
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5. No that is what labor activism LOOKED LIKE in
the 1880s. This is what it took for you to enjoy a 40 hour week

You think those labor activists were thugs? You think these boys are thugs?

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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:59 AM
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9. And if Bush and his gang get their way ...

... they'll turn back the clock to the 1880's once again.


MDN
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:03 AM
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10. more like 1860, but that is me, if not even before that
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:09 AM
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13. I think these guys are desperate
Was it thuggery or Keeping and Bearing Arms? No matter what anyone says, the Consensus Opinion will be that it's thuggery. The Boss Man no longer has to send his own goons out. Just cultivate enough fear in the minds of his underlings, and they'll do their own self-destruction.

The guys carrying weapons are always the bad guys now, no matter what the motivation. This isn't a moral judgement I've made, it's the way the public morality has changed.

But it's not "just" a black eye for "us" ... it's an indicator that things have started to go seriously wrong. Just as they did during the Industrial Revolution.

--p!
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:12 AM
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14. actually, no
"it's the way the public morality has changed"

TV morality maybe, not the public morality of Americans. Many, many Americans - Democratic Republican and otherwise, can and will sympanthize with these guys. They didn't do ANYTHING other than protest their jobs being outsourced.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:27 AM
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20. I think these guys are desperate... that is what they want
you to think.

They also want you to believe this was thugery of the highest order

Oh welcome back to the glory days of the 1880s.... damn Santayana... I really did not want to relieve this again!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:43 PM
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30. Amen! There were those who carried signs and those
who wielded bats and sticks. Guess which was more effective? Only when the boss fears the worker (instead of the other way around) is there real and lasting change for the working class.

The 40 hour week and vacation time did not come because workers were polite and picketed with the approval of the ruling class. NO! We have the few rights as workers because people were ANGRY and FOUGHT tooth and nail for their rights. Those people would be ASHAMED at how complacent all workers are today.

Just because most members of the working class work in office buildings does not mean there is not exploitation. We may not work in factories but the same type of exploitation takes place.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:15 PM
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32. it's not that bad yet
at least we hope so
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:58 AM
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8. Read Storming Heaven.
That will give you a good picture of what's on its way.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:04 AM
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11. notice tools equals weapons, at least for working people
knives, a sledgehammer, an ax, all standard normal tools, are now "weapons" when some guy doesn't want his job outsourced has them in his car. And a baseball bat? They probably have A Rod on the terrorist list!
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:21 AM
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19. a very important point here:

> knives, a sledgehammer, an ax, all standard normal tools,
> are now "weapons" when some guy doesn't want his job outsourced
> has them in his car.


MAJOR question arises here: the article *implies* that these articles were being carried or brandished, but it doesn't actually *say* that. So one guy has some tools in his car (whether for his job or for his home) : a sledge and an ax. Were they using burn-barrels to keep warm, by any chance (either this day or on previous days)? Any wood-splitting involved in that, perchance? As to "knife", when I worked in the trades there wasn't a day in two years that I didn't have some sort of knife on me. The job required it. A lot of guys carry pocketknives, too. More detail is needed on this one. As to a baseball bat, again, was this being carried/brandished, or was it just in one of the striker's cars?

These questions make a BIG difference in what *actually* happened vs. what the story *implies* happened.


MDN


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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:40 AM
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25. A couple "weapons" used by the company . . .
According to local TV news reports: (1) rather than direct-deposit the workers' paychecks this week, the company decided to have them in the mail by Monday; and, (2) when a retiree's wife happened to need to be hospitalized, only THEN did workers learn that the company had cancelled retirees' medical benefits.



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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:18 AM
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18. Labor in this country can only take so many goddamned blows.....
this is only the beginning.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:53 PM
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27. I think you're right
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:38 AM
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21. Info on the Outsourcers/Scabbers - ORMET Corporation
ORMET

ORMET CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
1233 Main Street, Suite 4000
Wheeling, WV 26003

P: 304.234.3900
For Customer Service: 800.331.6950
F: 304.234.3929
E: communications@ormet.com

BURNSIDE BULK MARINE TERMINAL
4258 Highway 44
General Delivery
Darrow, LA 70725

P: 225.473.3791
F: 225.474.3719
E: terminalsales@ormet.com
W: www.burnsideterminal.com

BURNSIDE ALUMINA DIVISION
41237 Highway 22
General Delivery
Burnside, LA 70738

P: 225.473.9241
F: 225.474.3780
E: hydrate@ormet.com

HANNIBAL REDUCTION DIVISION
P.O. Box 176, State Route 7
Hannibal, Oh 43931

P: 740.483.1381
For Customer Service: 888.676.3808
F: 740.483.2622
E: satinplussales@ormet.com
ssmsales@ormet.com

ORMET ALUMINUM MILL PRODUCTS CORPORATION
HANNIBAL ROLLING MILL DIVISION
P.O. Box 164
State Route 7
Hannibal, OH 43931

P: 740.483.1341
For Customer Service: 800.848.5200
F: 740.483.2806
E: rolledproductsales@ormet.com JACKSON COATED & FOIL DIVISION
P.O. Box 129
Jackson, TN 38302

P: 731.424.2000
For Customer Service: 800.238.3953
F: 731.422.7805
E: coatedandfoilsales@ormet.com
BENS RUN RECYCLING FACILITY
4203 S. State Route 2
Friendly, WV 26146

P: 304.652.1415
F: 304.652.1265
E: metalpurchasing@ormet.com
W: www.bensrunrecycling.com
ORMET SUBSIDIARIES
SPECIALTY BLANKS, INC.
P.O. Box 3480
1033 Crawford Street
Terre Haute, IN 47803

P: 812.234.3002
For Customer Service: 800.365.3002 ext. 222
F: 812.232.8775


http://www.ormet.com/
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:46 AM
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22. more
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:54 PM
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28. That's a half hour from here....
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 12:56 PM by ohio_liberal
Many of the guys in my hometown work for Ormet. It isn't 2000 feet, btw, its 2000 yards. That's right, they have to picket more than a mile away from the plant entrance.

On edit:

One of the picketers was also run over by a car attempting to enter the plant. The driver of the car was released on bail, but the picketers arrested were being held without bond.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:36 PM
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29. where can we send support money?
Is this an SMWIA local? Do you know which one? I clicked around but couldn't find anything other than the AP story.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:47 PM
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31. The local unions are
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 02:00 PM by ohio_liberal
USWA 5724
105 union drive
Clarington OH 43915
1-740-458-1345

USWA 5760
Sardis, OH 43946
1-740-483-1376


The district info:

USWA District 8
85 C. Michael Davenport Blvd, Suite B
Frankfort, KY 40601
502-875-3332 - Telephone
502-875-2917 - FAX
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