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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:51 PM
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Funny how this admin can see the plank in Ukraine's eye - but
nothing wrong with the US vote:

Western Criticism

Yushchenko, a pro-Western liberal, and Yanukovych, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, fought a bitterly contested runoff battle. On Monday, the election commission said that with 99.38 percent of precincts counted, Yanukovych had 49.42 percent to Yushchenko's 46.70 percent.

However, an exit poll conducted under a Western-funded program gave Yushchenko 54 percent of the vote to Yanukovych's 43 percent. Another poll put Yushchenko ahead by 49.4 to 45.9 percent.

Western observers criticized the balloting, and on Wednesday European leaders stepped up pressure on Ukraine to review the results. (Full story)

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, normally a close ally of Putin, said the election showed what he called massive fraud, Reuters reported, while EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said Ukraine was at a crossroads and could turn violent.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso warned of "consequences" for the EU's political and trade relations with Ukraine if the government there does not allow a full review of the election results, AP reported.

NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer summoned the Ukraine ambassador Wednesday to express the alliance's disappointment, and Ukraine's ambassador to the European Union was called to appear before the European Parliament on Wednesday to defend the election, AP reported.

At the Vatican, Pope John Paul II told Ukrainian pilgrims he was praying for their country in a "special way."

And in Washington, the White House issued a statement saying the United States is "deeply disturbed by extensive and credible indications of fraud committed in the Ukrainian presidential election."

However, Putin has congratulated Yanukovych on his victory, and the Kremlin-controlled Russian parliament denounced the Ukrainian opposition Wednesday for its "illegal actions," AP reported.
Putin, traveling in Portugal, called the observers' criticism "inadmissible" and said through an interpreter that Ukraine "doesn't need to be lectured," AP reported.

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:52 PM
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1. & how come the Yugos & Ukraines have the guts to get out in the streets
and protest a fraudulent election,,,,,but we in the US dont?
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:00 PM
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2. Colin Powell - HA HA
" The US secretary of state, Colin Powell, today said his government refused to accept the results of the Ukrainian presidential election, which has been marred by reports of widespread electoral fraud."
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:03 PM
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3. We live in the greastest Hypocracy on earth.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:13 PM
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4. We have no idea what the Ukranians want.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 02:14 PM by bullimiami
Once again, another country, rather than being encouraged to be democratic, is being manipulated in a power grab.

Of course Russia is involved but the US has also been involved in promoting their pro-western candidate and inciting problems for the pro-Russian candidate.

Was the exit poll independent or was it rigged like in Venezuela? We know the election was tampered with by both sides.

I also have to wonder how much of the uprising is being manipulated and driven by the USgovt/CIA.

I have no idea what the Ukrainian people want, but "I" believe in DEMOCRACY unlike either Putin or Bushco and I would like for all of us to have a free and fair election.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:55 PM
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5. it's all a red herring
Bush and Putin decided that Bush could have Iraq, Putin could have the Ukraine.

Bush probably caused the fraud in the first place, and now he's drumming up support for a civil war.

Once a civil war starts, Putin will have his excuse to roll the banks in and quash it, and take Ukraine for Russia.

Much hand-shaking will occur afterwards.

Trust no one.
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:36 PM
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6. I tell you, you must learn about who is really behind the Ukraine actions.
Dig deep, learn, discern, understand. History is a terrible thing to lose!
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