Ok, if life begins at conception (and I believe it does) it certainly

doesn't end at birth!! I'm talking about Ralph Reed and the Dem spokeperson on with G. Stephonopolis (sp) today. Republicans believe in the life of the fetus but once born the Republicans fight against everything and anything from taxes to food stamps to help a born human live. They are against social programs geared to help the most needy among us from the poor to the elderly. Instead of voting and working to fix the social programs so that they help the most people for the least cost, they consistently vote against anything that smacks of Federal funds for the needy but continue to support all kinds of subsidies for the greedy.

Why the hell can't we get a Dem or liberal spokesperson who will link the Republicans to the work they do against serving the people? The spokesperson today made a feeble attempt to say that Dems support moral issues also and that helping the poor, financing education, and fighting to save the environment are social moral issues also, and these issues have roots in the Christian religion. HOWEVER, this is not enough to just say what WE stand FOR. Dems need to learn to speak about what the opposition is AGAINST! We need to link the Republicans to their policies, their votes, and their actions. We fail to do this time after time. This is what the Republicans do so well against us: they come right out and say Dems are bad, liberals are bad, they are against life, they are against America..ydayadayada.. We always let them off the hook by not making direct charges against them and calling them on their lies and misinformation. When oh when will we have leaders with backbone and sense? The media killed off Dean who was one of the few, along with Sharpton who was not afraid to call the Republicans to task and to link them with their dirty deeds. We must take charge of the message, define ourselves and refute any definition of what and who we are by the opposition. I can't believe there are no people smart enough to understand this among the Dem leadership.

I don't think they will allow themselves to be a forum for someone to speak out on how the Republicans are really against helping people. They are going along with the agenda that places all social services out of the hands of government, to either be abandoned totally or to be placed into the hands of churches, who can decide who does or doesn't get help not based on need but on idealogy.

...is because there wasn't enough private help to care for the needy. This rosy right wing policy making is going to fall on it face. Meantime, children, the elderly and the disabled will suffer and die until the public finds it conscience again.

if we'd give them a story. If someone like kennedy or kerry would take the gloves off and say "bush is a psychopath who invaded a country that has never done anything to us" the press would NOT bury that statement. They'd eat it up.

Just like they respect those that don't think like you. The potential for human life begins at conception. The decision on whether to carry those cells to birth is a decision only she can and should decide.

I am more concerned about where life "continues" than where life "begins" although my title may be somewhat misleading.

are shared by me.

We are concerned about where life continues, not just where it begins. Can anyone seriously call themselves 'right to life' if they cut off funding to help newborn babies survive? Maybe we should be putting up posters of starving babies and young children, to show that life does go on after conception and that it should be protected.

BTW, I agree with the poster who said the Dems allow many interpretations of when life begins. Maybe that sentiment could be included in the poster as well.

However, I firmly believe that women should make the decision if they want to carry it to term or not without it being a moral issue. Allowing the wingnuts to place the argument in the realm of morality was the first mistake.

Churches have too much to lose. Every person who is not born can't put their fanny in a church pew and drop coin into the basket. Pfui. As far as I'm concerned, this Choice issue goes way beyond abortion. It's a woman's body and she owns it. That fact drives many churches nuts.

Btw, I'm a third of the way through "The Handmaid's Tale" and have some fully ripened righteousness going on today.

Repugs talk about moral values and then bush murders all these iraqis just so joe sixpack can keep his suburban gassed up. But we're told it's the republicans who are pro-life!!! Dems should come out and say it "bush lied us into war and now he's commmitting genocide against people who have never done anything to us."

We should, and we should use the term.

Conservatism is selfishness, and it needs to be called by its real name.

Don't use emotional appeals, use logical ones: this deliberate starving of government while crushing all economic classes from the middle on down will destroy the country. The economy simply won't work when common folk don't have money to spend.

These people are mean and sick, and they need to be called out for their ugliness.

anti-abortion (or anti-woman as the case may be). You're correct on many points. I come from a family that is pro-life, which means, in addition to opposing abortion) NO death penalty, NO useless war, universal healthcare, universal daycare, quality education for everyone, quality nutrition for everyone etc., etc. BTW, they are all FLAMING liberals.

While I disagree regarding a woman's right to choose, I can at least respect their position because it is consistent.