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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:46 PM
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Catch me up on this Madsen story
I've been traveling this weekend and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Now back online I see some follow-up threads regarding an article by Wayne Madsen about vote fraud.

Can you catch us up on the details? I don't have the link to the original article.

What was the gist of it?

What was the fallout?

Is it a credible story?

Is anyone else covering it?

Thanks!




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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:49 PM
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1. Keith Olberman may discuss it tonite
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6533008/#041127a

Reportedly According to Apparently Informed Sources (Keith Olbermann)

NEW YORK — As of early Friday evening, at least 60 viewers and readers had forwarded me cut-and-pastes of— or links to— an amazingly intricate conspiracy theory on-line piece that intertwines the Presidential election, Homeland Security, the FBI, $29,000,000 in payoffs, Enron, and the Saudi Royal Family— seemingly everybody except the Visiting Nurse Association of Skaneateles, New York.

Each e-mail has come with the same question: could this possibly be true?

To summarize the story, Wayne Madsen, a former naval officer and now self-styled investigative journalist, has written that “according to informed sources in Washington and Houston,” computer experts were promised phenomenal amounts of cash, laundered via Saudi Arabia and the secret accounts of those who looted Enron, to pose as FBI and Homeland Security agents, infiltrate polling places around the country, and hack into electronic voting systems.

After Iran-Contra, nobody can discount the theoretical possibility of any international conspiracy to commit… well, to commit anything. But in the absence of verifiable facts, and in the middle of a sea of unidentified sources and usage of the words “reportedly” and “apparently,” it is often instructive to see if the writer, and the mere journalistic structure of what he’s written, can even maintain what artists like to call “verisimilitude” - the mere appearance of truth.

And as a work of journalism, the Madsen piece has several glaring problems that make even a doubter like myself cringe.

Mr. Madsen’s only readily recognizable germ of truth comes in the third paragraph of his piece: “There have been media reports from around the country concerning the locking down of precincts while votes were being tallied.” He then retells the still inexplicable walling off of the Administration Building in Warren County, Ohio, on the night of the election, on the pretext of a terror warning from the FBI that the FBI has since declared it never made.

But that has been the only such report of a “lock down.”
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:52 PM
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2. Thanks - it seems a little too vast of a conspiracy to be true?
Is that the case?
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:54 PM
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3. No, it's looking to be true
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:56 PM
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4. I just read the cut & paste summary of that thread
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 07:58 PM by Stephanie
Do you have the link to the original story?

The summary:

WAYNE MADSEN Q&A DU 11/28 PM ------------A COMPILATION
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:09 PM
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5. here
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 08:11 PM by dweller
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:21 PM
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6. Thanks for the link
I'm sure you've read this one.

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html
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