Religion vs. Science

The recent "Religion vs. Science" threads really annoy the hell out of me. Why...is not important. The debate is irrelevant. Religious perception requires faith. It doesn't think faith is neat, it flat out requires it. You have it or you don't. Bing, bang, boom, done. It comes down to that.

Scientific validation requires proof. You track down why "A" causes "C" and you figure out the tiny steps beteen "A" to "B" and "B" to "C."

The nifty thing is, sometimes, those discoveries feed into each other and make realization. And, starting from a new groundpoint, we delve deeper. One day, perhaps, we find a grain of truth.

I sure hope.

The Bible isn't a science book, and science books aren't bibles.

right on! Instead hehe :D

religion is intruding upon and even stifling science in the USA today.

... a real conflict between relgion and science, except the conflic conjured up by man.

Science and faith can go hand in hand. An example would be believeing that the Big Bang would be the moment of creation. (presumably by God)

It's the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago and what they did to scientists to try and hide the truth, because the truth made them less powerful and less relevant (or so they perceived at the time), that caused the perceived rift between science and religion.

To me a good analogy is this: Studying a painting or a work of art, in itself.. or, thinking about the artist who created it...

...learning about science and the way the universe works is akin to the practice looking at the work of art itself... faith is akin to dealing with the artist who created it.

Heyo

we are biologically predisposed to desire certainty and to abhor doubt. Faith provides certainty (or the appearance of it), while science explains by its very premiss that certainty is not available to us. We can, as you say, delve deeper from new groundpoints, based upon closer or more inclusive considerations of evidence. But "truth" is not a reasonable expectation.

Therefore it cannot be the subject of critical analysis using the scientific method. Those who attempt to address religious questions using these methods are simply wasting intellectual effort.

As a natural scientist trained in ecology and evolutionary biology I do understand the concern of scientists when matters of faith interfere with their work.

However, as a religious person, I am equally concerned with the condition of those whose faith can only be maintained by denying reality. Such superstitions are a very poor substitute for true spiritual experience.