Right winger philosophical projection

Fascinatingly Some freepers (below) see Gramsi as a bad idea,And that IS the correct way to look at anyone justifying authoritarian crap,BUT what they do not see is their OWN projections.

In their quest to allow their own "intolerance" and desires to suppress or crush what Right wing leaders declare "deviant' for the right wingers,to justify their supposed entitlement to hegemony,they become rationalizers for abuses of power like Gramsi,justifying their own desire for social control,by calling it different words.They seek control while denouncing the right to be different(pluralism) of people victimized by this push for conformity to state or church social control mechanisms.

To an Authoritarian,all people who do not want to be abused by bullies, who do not want to live their lives the"state religion way" or who refuse to conform ,People that reject the domination of controllers,are a "threat to the authoritarian society structure it undermines the hegemony or as freepspeak calls it, "values". Freepers use the word"values" as Gramsi described, to hold their own kind of culture in a place of dominance over others.

Freepers and Evangelfundies in their unwillingness to let others live and let live,and leave people who disagree with their ways of life alone, have effectively become the bullying,authoritarian controllers they project upon the left...TOTALLY.The projection is so seamless they can't see themselves as being WRONG in their assessment of THEMSELVES....

That hegemony is what freepers call"values",it's the same sick authoritarianism bashing the"deviants" Gramsi advocates as a way to make society "function" in a hierarchical/fascist way.

Freeper "values"are nothing but plain old social hegemony dressed in a different suit,tailored with off colored manipulative uses of language ,to get people persuaded to support the ideas in the guise of The family, the church, the schools, the civil society and its organizations.These"values are none other than the building blocks of the AUTHORITARIAN or THEOCRATIC AUTHORITARIAN State. Anyone who refuses to submit to this right wing hegemony of "values" in their lifestyle is a literally a personal threat in their freeped out mind.Because cognitive dissonance is created with dissent,Differences are threating to the underlying unconscious desire freepers have to have an authoritarian state.Seems freepers think authority can give them an entitlement to abuse the "other" or"deviant" signaled by non-conformity to their "values"and a rejection of their lifestyle and belief systems.

The Freeps "other" they are so upset about in reality is often some person defending themselves against objectification,marginalization, harassment and dehumanization,who is unwillingly a target in a freepers projection.The person defending their right to be different or not be harassed becomes a target of a freepers projection,a horrid control freak,who's a servant of the authoritarian"communist" secular ,liberal'elite' state.


Freepers have so disconnected themselves from their own shadow aspects (Jung)they have created an alternate reality and live in it,They have made another language.And they have gotten control of government that we ALL have to deal with.Freepers can't face up to the reality they feel out of control vulnerable and scared of pluralism and society without a "strong parent" figure to take care of them like their own parents failed to..Freedom from authority stirs up feelings from their shadow they have disowned for fear of losing power over others or oppression by "deviant" desire(freedom) they suppress to avoid admitting to themselves even they are heartless and have become what they hate and fear because they have disconnected their heart,emotions from their own conscience.


In stories told by the Dakota people, an evil person always keeps his or her heart in a secret place separate from the body. The hero must find that secret place and destroy the heart in order to stop the evil.

The hidden heart of "evil" any "hero" has to find ,consists of connecting the freeper to his own conscience and emotional connection to others as in real compassion..This has to be done on a MASSIVE scale in order to stop this projection these people do.The projection mechanism is the psychological game that conceals the part who knows the Truth,the part of the freeper that can see he is a fascist and can face what he projects on others is a lie so he can dominate them.A deceptive convenient falsehood acted upon and believed in for the sake of securing their own "hegemony" in the "hierarchy" of the authoritarian culture they seek to impose on this nation to feel"secure" in an uncertain world.

Empires fail because the attainment of total security and servitude by free willed people cannot be had forever in this reality,ever,unless you basically make people into robots..

The closest we get to total security is having loving parent(s) who are emotionally there for the kids , nurturing,patient,encouraging,comforting, protective and compassionate to their kids. Parents that are non nurturing authoritarian and cold don't know how to give their kids that initial feeling of security that sets their heart inside their own here and now, that emotionally intact adults have that they carry within in their lives that helps them not to fear "otherness" and project "dangerous"on people who don't do as they want.

Non nurturing parents were not given the emotional tools to give their kids this kind of security inside, by their parents.. They will not know how to be there emotionally for their kids unless they learn why they fear life,death, differences,abandonment,losing control,insignificance,vulnerability etc and decide to give up that bad idea security in this life can be had through controlling others..and understand it to the core of their being before they go having kids..


Projection is one defense mechanism destroying a world where the creation of cooperative,peaceful, egalitarian, free,open,sharing and pluralistic cultures,who are willing to abandon the "values" of social hegemony and that reject coercion,domination and subjugation are the only way any societies can ensure this worlds continued survival.
This projection freepers do on everyone who is not like them is dangerous to the world.

When projection is totally detached from the projector they appear to be heartless and deaf to the very real suffering and corruption that runs rampant in Authoritarian cultures who "value" hegemony. People hurt by freepers desires to dominate see this,the freepers will not empathize wit the people they trample because they have disowned their"weakness" in their heart and it is OUT THERE not in the freeper himself,he made himself a fortress.


Freepers also can walk right up to the truth in authoritarianism (see below) and not see it is par of themselves_At All_. And this mechanism is amazing in it's delusional intensity for those of us living in the non_freeper reality.

Authoritarians always rationalize abusive things like torture,poverty,police abuses,Draconian laws,eroding privacy and human rights and rape for security's sake sake(i.e. securing their own hegemony over the"other")All horrors are all an means to an end, the end is the"win".And the freepers yell"king me".


Any person enforcing a personal boundary is normal,A freeper can't see that because he does not want resistance. No is an affront to his entitlements,to power over. Freepers by denying they project can justify acting out their projections on others. How could they justify that ruthless pursuit of domination and hegemony in the name of"security" from the"other" if the other submits?
What are they "securing" themselves against than when all their enemies are subjugated? Authoritarians can NEVER get too much power or control for themselves.

How come freepers NEVER learned how to feel secure as a person among people in a culture that values love,plurality,
peace,cooperation,sharing,freedom of expression or social equality?
Because they are insecure on a deep level and never learned how to feel secure in a vulnerable state because their parents were not emotionally nurturing to them.When kids that are insecure become freeper adults they must realize they cannot reclaim the parental love that was not there years ago through false securities of materialism,theocracy,spying,control,domination,addictions, or sadism.
Freepers don't want ANYBODY finding their insecure heart and speaking truth to the abuses of power and making the freep face the painful parental betrayal,ignoring or negating the vulnerability and human emotional needs they went without as little kids. Some hardcore freepers would rather kill the entire planet, shatter countless lives to make them obey.


This was on a Freep Site...
LOOK at how TOTAL the projection IS!!!!


GRAMSCI AND THE U.S. BODY POLITIC
By: Alberto Luzárraga


Why the interest in Gramsci? Certainly, he is not a household name for most people, but nonetheless he is relevant enough to be mentioned the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. In a recent piece (12/19/00) by George Melloan, the columnist refers to an article published by John Fonte in the Policy Review of the Hudson Institute.


According to the WSJ writer, " defines the ideological split in America as a contest between present-day Tocquevillians and disciples of the 20th-century Italian philosopher Antonio Gramsci, who drew on the ideas of Friedrich Hegel and Karl Marx. The Tocquevillians incline toward individualism, religious belief and patriotism. The Gramscians see any society, including America, as an arena where the "marginalized" are necessarily at war with the privileged classes. Good old-fashioned class warfare, in other words."


As we know, political events do not happen in a vacuum. There are always causes. Ideas that were deemed a failure decades ago can be successfully implemented today. In the world of ideas, decades are often only an incubation period and today Gramsci s ideas are very much alive in the political arena.


Born at Ales, Italy on January 1891, Antonio Gramsci was the fourth son of Francesco Gramsci, a clerk in the local registrar s office. He suffered through a difficult childhood, eventually received a scholarship, and graduated from the University of Turin. In 1921 he became a founding member of the Italian Communist party. In 1922 he traveled to Moscow as a member of the Communist International and remained in Moscow for a year. It was the beginning of the Stalinist period.


Gramsci, a bright man, thought that Stalinist methods would not work in western societies. Violence and revolution, in his opinion, would generate a fatal reaction against the communist movement. He returned to Italy with more subtle and long term ideas and began to develop them. Shortly upon his return, Mussolini jailed Gramsci. The fascist regime saw his ideas as a danger to the State. It was from prison (where he died in 1937) that Gramsci wrote his 33 books. They contain very shrewd insights on how a "capitalist, bourgeois society" works and how it can be taken over peacefully and dominated through a systematic change of its ideas.


His methods became in fact, the "field manual" for the many that followed. If you understand Gramsci, you will understand the "peculiar" and "weird" theories that are in vogue today. And you will understand that they are not the work of "weird crazy people" but rather of calculating and quite intelligent operatives.


One word of caution however. Followers of the Gramscian doctrines are a mixed lot. It would be a service rendered to the socialists to call every Gramsci follower a full fledged socialist although many certainly are that. Socialists love absolute accusations in order to label people "extremist", one of their preferred epithets. Part of the methodology is to deviate attention by accusing others of what they are or do. We should not give them that chance. Moreover, although the Gramscian proposal demands from the common follower consent and acceptance of its ideas, this does not necessarily imply that all rank and file followers have a clear understanding of where they are going.


And then, many of the more adept Gramscian operators may not fully support his economic ideas. His relevance lies in the fact that for many ambitious and opportunistic political operatives Gramsci is seen as a modern Machiavelli with a good method to achieve power. And to them this is more important than a specific economic model. The important point to understand is the method. It is a road map that shows one of the favored strategies used by persons with an unlimited lust for power to climb and acquire notoriousness, while advancing their ideas.


So what is Gramsci all about? Well, let s start with his concept of "hegemony" a word frequently used by people not noted for their love of hundred dollar words. For Gramsci ,"hegemony" is not mere dominance by force. Rather, it is the set of ideas by which dominant groups in a society secure the consent of subordinate groups to their rule.


Note the emphasis on consent. A governing class must succeed in persuading the governed to accept the moral, political and cultural values suggested by those in power. Gramsci noted that this is the way "bourgeois societies" ruled. Extreme measures were only used when there was rebellion against the established mores.


Therefore his conclusion was: Let s do the same and capture the minds of the population, as well as the institutions of the bourgeoisie and do it with ideas that we will present as "common sense". The implementation will be through intellectuals and figures of influence gained to the cause by vanity, convenience or ambition and a by a new element, intellectual operatives that work with the people. All of it, coupled to constant use of the media.


In his words: "the mode of being of the new intellectual can no longer consist in eloquence & but in active participation in practical life, as constructor, organizer, "permanent persuader" and not just a simple orator&"


Gramsci understood what Marx did not understand: Economic crises by themselves would not subvert capitalism, because capitalism always managed to overcome the crises and emerged stronger. Another theory was necessary for a different reality. One that recognized the importance of culture and ideology, and methods that went beyond the coarser forms of Marxist class struggle. Methods that would be efficient in capturing power in a western society. Methods that would fit the use of mass media because they were subtle and persuasive. If you gain the minds you gain the bodies. Even a partial victory is useful, because it weakens and diminishes your opposition.


Gramsci perceived that in a western society, the bond between the ruler and the ruled was what kept it together and this bond was what created "hegemony." And where was that bond? How was it cemented?


In the classical institutions, and through them of course. The family, the church, the schools, the civil society and its organizations, none other than the building blocks of the State.


The revolutionaries who wished to break the "hegemony" had to build up a "counter hegemony" to that of the ruling class. It was necessary to change the minds, to change the popular consensus, to change the way institutions work. In sum, to make the people question the right of their leaders to rule in the accepted way.


Success would consist in permeating throughout society a whole new system of values, beliefs and morality. A system that would become accepted by all in a way that would appear to be the normal thing to do.


How is it done? Besides the traditional intellectuals (those who see themselves as such) there must exist the "organic intellectual", i.e. the one that grows with a social group, and becomes its thinking and organizing element. The role of informal "educators" in local communities becomes essential. The educator must not be seen as a distant "brainy" figure but as "one of us", one of the neighborhood, another one of the group.


The same applies to the schools which Gramsci sees as a means used by social groups "to perpetuate a function, to rule or to be subordinate". Ergo, schools and curriculums must be controlled either directly or indirectly.


Once organized these groups would engage in incessant political activity and use massive means of communication. No armed conspiracies, just unrelenting propaganda. The introduction of Gramscian methodology in society, produces a constant clash for supremacy of ideas and a patient but persistent subversion of the building blocks of that society. Subversion is a many faced endeavor played by different people with different objectives but the modern method has a substantial Gramscian content.


Take a case in point. Why it is that we must often suffer a way of thinking that attempts to coerce us intellectually? Look around. How many times have you heard: You must not be "judgmental" or "intolerant." What does that mean in Gramscian terms? It means: You must accept our values and not argue. If you do not you are out the mainstream. Remember the Gramscian objective of turning their ideas into "common sense"?


Do you now understand, why we have political correctness?


Why we have neighborhood groups that look more like agitation and propaganda entities than neighborhood associations?


Why we have schools that push a peculiar curriculum and ignore parents, school budgets that make available funds for incredible courses, and teachers unions that often do not appear to represent teachers true interests?


Why we have churches that have become political discourse centers?


Why we have a myriad civil associations with goals that appear to be destructive and divisive?


Why we have mass media that often operate as propaganda machines rather than reporters of events?


The Wall Street Journal article continues: "Mr. Fonte says the Gramscian view has special currency in higher intellectual circles, particularly on elite college campuses. The plight of women, minorities, gays and other victims of cultural hegemony is a favorite subject of student indoctrinations, not to mention speech and thought control, in such places. The federal Violence Against Women Act produced a Supreme Court case in which a 10-year-old boy was charged with harassing a fifth-grade female classmate. It is no accident that the Gramscian New York Times editorial page thought that the most important thing Al Gore said in his eloquent concession speech was that he would continue to fight for people "who need burdens lifted and barriers removed." How he might have conducted his fight if he had been elected has never been clear; certainly not by cutting their taxes."


The only way to gain absolute power in the United States is through long range Gramscian tactics. There is hope however, if we don t take for granted what we now enjoy and fight to maintain power divided. The true strength of the American Republic is the division of power. This is why the would be revolutionaries so hate the Electoral College, States Rights, local self government, etc. The system devised by the Founding Fathers complicates their life tremendously. As the quoted article notes:


"Over and above these structural features, there are the multiplicity of interests and interest groups, the immense diversity of American society and the excessive rhetoric that characterizes the conflict of those separated in fact by minor differences." Underlying it all, however, "is the sheer power of the idea of freedom an idea so powerful that not even those opposed to freedom condemn it . . . ."


The last sentence is crucial. Even those that seek to destroy the system must pay lip service, at least, to the idea of liberty. They must talk about the people s right to vote while they work against it and seek to discredit the process.


The Gramscians in the United States cannot wage a war of conquest. They must wage a war of attrition and position. If we understand their tactics we can stop them and win. But it won t happen by staying at home and watching the game. We must all become involved. In the same way they become involved. To use a Gramscian term, each one of us must become an "organic intellectual" of sorts, one that explains and convinces. Gramsci was right when he said that all men have intellectual concerns outside their field of activity. The problem is that most citizens are so busy with their lives that they do not have the time to think things through. They need help and those who understand must help, each in his own way.


We have in our favor truth and true common sense. If they succeed it is only because we allowed the party with the harmful product to sell it to an unsuspecting public.


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BOB

_amazing and kinda unnerving ain't it?_
U Panther

are having such a difficult time. We do not desire to dominate and control others. We have limits that are much less than the RW - they will stop at nothing to control and destroy opposition.

We look weak compared to the fascists in the image wars. Decency is now passe.

The * voters are followers who need to be led and apparently there a lot of them out there.