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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:20 AM
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Ed Koch gets it wrong on the Christian Right. He thinks they...
like Jewish people, when in fact the Christian Right is very Anti-Semitic.

"In the religious sector, I am grateful to the Reverends Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, both of whom have stood up time and again in support and defense of the Jewish nation."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/edkoch.asp

Are we talking about the same Pat Robertson? The Pat I am thinking of has said this:
"Communism was the brainchild of German-Jewish intellectuals." -- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, (1991), p.17

And Jerry Falwell has said this:
"The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior."

"I know a lot of you here today don't like Jews. And I know why. He (a Jew) can make more money accidentally than you can on purpose."

"As long as they don't convert, Jews are "spiritually blind."
http://www.geocities.com/ck4829/positions.html
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:21 AM
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1. the fundies like Israel because it's not muslum
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:22 AM
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2. And because it's part of their end-of-the-world plan
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:24 AM
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4. No, they like Israel because of their doomsday prophecies
Israel must rebuild the Temple of Solomon in order for the Apocalypse to occur according to the 2000 year old maniacal ravings of a nomadic goat herder.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:25 PM
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7. you nailed it n/t
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:27 AM
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5. The fundies like Israel
...because they believe it's the key to Armageddon. Their ultimate goal is to hasten the end of the world so they can get sucked upstairs and taunt the rest of us.

Trouble is, they're already rich, self-righteous and pompous here on Earth. Like the Pharisees of Jesus' time, they're getting their rewards right now.

Hey fundies: Stop beating on your Bible and read it some time.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:23 AM
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3. Fundies like Israel because they need Jews in order to fulfill prophecy.
Koch is a senile old fool if he thinks they respect Jews and Judaism for what they are.

According to the wacked-out interpretation of scripture the fundies use, Israel must rebuild the temple so that Jesus can come back and kick everyone's ass (Jewish ass included).
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:30 AM
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6. Ed "its all lies ! " Koch.......please read anything on the
RAPTURE/RAPTURE INDEX , you stupid old fuck.

..you'll see EXACTLY why "Pat and Jerry" seem to "like" you so much. At least until you rebuild the temple...then by the way , Jesus returns and all non-converts to christianity , including Jews , are toast - literally.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:50 PM
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14. there was a crooked man who had a crooked mind
his name is ed koch sorry thats ed kitch
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:28 PM
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8. we are discussing that nelly closet queen hypocrite nazi
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:34 PM by ooglymoogly
puleeeeze. fyi he and zell are having a torid closet fist fk romance. he is not fit to lick the boots of any true democrat. the only thing he might be good at is supervising the log cabin republicans' lobotomies. hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:35 PM
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9. I have to burn the mental image that creates out of my mind asap!
Ick.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:03 PM
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10. When I was a fundy, I was told we were to like Jews because...
...of a bible verse: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." Of course, the Jews were still going to hell if they didn't accept Christ.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:12 PM
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11. Koch has been controlled since he ran for mayor. He's a bad boy.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:16 PM
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12. The onset of Alzheimer's can be so terribly sad
Ed still thinks people care what he has to say. Kind of poignant, really.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:16 PM
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13. Ed Koch is a blithering idiot and a lousy mayor.
Isn't it sad that a republican like Giuliani did a ten times better job than you, Ed? Pisses me off. Now you fellate Bush at every opportunity because you're still to shell-shocked from 9-11 to take a minute to actually THINK.

These are the same people that were putting your forbears in gas chambers and ovens 60 years ago.

"How am I doin?"

You still suck, Ed.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:04 PM
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15. They don't like the Jews --
They like to USE the Jews because without them, Jeebus ain't coming back.

Fundies still think Jews are going to hell, however, just like Catholics and Atheists.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:07 PM
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16. He said Jewish nation, not jews.
The religious right hates jews, but they love Israel.
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