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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:57 PM
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I am so disappointed in a friend of mind ...need some help
for a moment trying to put this into perspective. I talked to a friend of mine who just retired early from the military due to health problems and they told me that they supported this war 100% and that we need to keep fighting for our freedom...wtf? :shrug: This is someone who I have known all my life, grew up with and feel like they are like family. They have been out of the country for a few years with the military, so we really haven't talked much about this war--mainly 'cause I thought it would be a "sore spot" for them. For the first time we talked about it today and I'm shocked to hear them say they support it. This is someone who is extremely intelligent (however, I'm beginning to see how naive') and who adores Clinton. I feel like I've been hit over the head with a billy stick!

Am I missing something here? Tell me again that this war was unnecessary and that I didn't just step into the twilight zone:crazy:
This is something I thought I would have never heard come out of this person's mouth. Support for Bush and this war? As we kept talking they said "remember 9-11 and those 3,000 people who died, we had to retaliate." I then asked, "yeah, but do you think Saddam had anything to do with 9-11," and they said, "no, but he was harboring terrorists." I went on to ask "well, what about Iran then, they are surely harboring terrorists, so should we get them next." Their response was, "we always have known Iran was up to no good." WTF...???

How can those in the military be so blind...or is it me that is blind to the last 2 years of this? This is someone I trusted to get the answers right and now I wonder...have they lost their mind or have I?

Reassurance of some kind desperately needed here...:crazy:

:freak:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:01 PM
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1. his answers
are exactly the same as the others who have bought into the PNAC.
absolute trust in the powers that be, believing that they know best.allegiance to the commander in chief. it is very sad. when you ask them about innocent civilian deaths, they change the subject. they are the children of fox news.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:05 PM
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2. I mentioned that too
I said "what about all the innocent Iraqis who had nothing to do with this," and it was like it went on deaf ears, the response: "yeah, that is sad, but it happens in war." WTF??? This is not the same person I grew up with. Who took their mind?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:18 PM
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4. this is a pickle
for sure in the friendship. knowing about the inside of the inside of your friend, when it is so defiant to your own core. i have been and currently am in relationships such as this. it ends up with forbidden topics between you.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:28 PM
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6. It's sad because we used to be on the same page
with politics. I think I'm still in some shock. What the hell did they do with my friend...:shrug:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:32 PM
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8. and another thing...
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 03:33 PM by Blue_Roses
they were supposed to be going to Iraq next month, but due to their illness they got early retirement. I'm glad they don't have to go to Iraq, but I wonder if they did go, would it have made a difference in how they feel.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:25 PM
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5. It used to be that you could believe what the president said...
Unfortunately those times have passed and most of the nation hasn't become aware of that yet.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:09 PM
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3. They slip the koolade in with the military food
Honestly, consider the conditioning that a professional soldier goes through: They are taught to follow orders and trust authority. He's been hearing that for several years. Cut him some slack and be grateful that there are those who are cut out for that sort of life.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:29 PM
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7. that's an optimistic way to look at it
but I feel like I'm dealing with a Manchurian Soldier...
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:42 PM
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9. Watch him become very un - Manchurian
When he attempts to get future treatment from the VA hospital. Bush and the house dingleberries have cut funding to the bone.
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