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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:03 PM Original message |
Scientific bigots can be just as annoying as religious bigots |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are Christians who acknowledge evolution too. |
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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. your response is the perfect example of what I'm referring to |
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eleonora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. It *is* mythology vs. reality |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. The only "evidence" for creationism |
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lgardengate (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. All Theory about how life began are just that...theory |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. There are theories and theories |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Because there's no evidence for it. |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
137. You really should check out the book "The Science of God" |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #137 |
152. Oh, you mean this book? |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #152 |
171. Not really???? Have you read the book???? Or, did you just read the |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #171 |
180. Yes, it tries. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. Theories cannot be proven |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
90. It's called scientific theory. |
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St. Jarvitude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 05:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
248. Evolution is not a theory. |
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WyLoochka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #61 |
266. Evolution is a theory |
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prodigal_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
179. well, I wouldn't say completely uneducated |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. I'm a Christian (preacher's kid no less) and |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
148. I totally agree |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
174. Your dad's a swell fellow |
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MaineYooper (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
205. thanks for your post |
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neoteric lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
271. Lydia, great post. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
89. It's really not a debate. |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
102. It IS Mythology: did Zeus or Odin create the heavens? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #102 |
268. they might have..nobody knows.. |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good luck with that |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So it's OK to be a bigot |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. "Science bigot" |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
195. I'll bet the Taliban hates those awful "science bigots," too.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #195 |
255. And the truly religious LOVE the science bigots |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #95 |
264. Do you think people who believe in science can't be bigots? |
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prodigal_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
182. Perhaps it's really a question |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. who cares about the christian right? |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I disagree. The OP said "we should all try to get along with one another" |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Yeah but most of those posts that he is complaining about are right here |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Oh, well when you put it that way... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
64. cool teach Christian creation |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
98. But that would mean they can't force others to go along with the joke |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
97. For some odd reason "some" here think it is. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Darwin was a Christian |
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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. What I'm saying is that both sides need to use tact |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. I am not |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. Ding, Ding! You have it exactly right! |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
67. if my faith says |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. or similarly |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
86. I'm game. Lets teach Aztec creationism too! |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. or vedic cosmology |
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Randers (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. There is no end to it |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
139. I agree |
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cruadin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I agree--Christianity is not incompatible with evolution... |
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Getchasome (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yes it is. |
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cruadin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. So...how did life begin? |
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Getchasome (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I still don't see how that makes it compatible. |
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cruadin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. I think a lot of the problem in these sorts of discussions... |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
96. right |
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Liberaltarian (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. beats me...how did god begin? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
269. yes you can...I believe that Evolution is true and factual.. |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
251. Was he? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. The ones who crack me up |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Sounds good to me |
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Getchasome (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I couldn't agree more. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sorry, but when someone tells me the Earth is 6000 years old.... |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. You should check out the book "The Science of God" |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. Apples and oranges |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Enough "intellectual reletavism" already |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. And brings us the issue of "equal time" placing everything equally. |
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BurgherHoldtheLies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. National Geographic November 2004 |
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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. the reason why some people still call it a theory |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. All that post demonstrates is a profound misunderstanding |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
106. I agree it is really hard discussing these things with people who |
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Randers (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. I don't think IQ answers the question |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #118 |
233. No, you are right it doesn't answer the question |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
146. 148. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #146 |
227. 148? Highly Unlikely |
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muse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
190. theory=explanation in science. It is not "just" a theory. Not a guess. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Nothing bigoted about it |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. Arrrggghhhh - |
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BurgherHoldtheLies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Exactly...keep it out of science class! |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. I haven't seen that sentiment. |
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Quill Pen (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. If we all did as you said... |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. The majority of Murkans are ReTHUGlicans, too... |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm a Christian, I don't care if you teach evolution. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
68. Actually, as I noted in my post above, |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
203. I don't think it belongs in science class. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. I have seen this too |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. OK, then.... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If they try to 'convert," knock yourself out! |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
183. Fair enough. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. we should all get along? |
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Artemis Bunyon (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. The majority of Germans at the time of WWII were Christians too. |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
147. No one really wants to acknowledge that......do they???? |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. Shakespeare in Math class |
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thinkingwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. yes they can |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. Evolution is kind of like the Earth being round. |
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Fleurs du Mal (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. There's reason to be biased against Christians |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Every power center can be used for violence when it is misused. EVERY |
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Fleurs du Mal (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. I didn't say religion |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #80 |
239. ridiculous |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
43. lol - and I'm a reality bigot.... |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. "Any time someone disagrees, just call em a bigot... beautiful..." |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. "a lot easier than dealing with arguments" |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
99. It's the Karl Rove Method |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. language hijacking |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. I respect the majority of Christians. |
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bhairava (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. Science is NOT a democracy or a tea party! |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Pardon my language |
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MaineYooper (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
224. as a scientist |
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xerox (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yep |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. try to get along and understand one another. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. What A Load Of Crap, Who's Attacking Christians? We're Fighting Ignorance |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
278. and it says alot when someone cannot hold up their religious beliefs |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. Here is why creationists get made fun of |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. "thousands of years ago" just ain't that long |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
57. The Earth is not flat. The Sun does not orbit the Earth. Evolution is the |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have particular issues with that |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Humans are naturally short-sighted |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
100. I'm developing NEW beliefs.... |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
188. Yeah, I would have to agree with and support that |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #188 |
237. i would cherish that opportunity (eom) |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #237 |
243. Some problems with that |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:19 AM Response to Reply #188 |
252. Like this,for example... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
60. So how are you with the idea of tax money used to teach the Easter Bunny |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
63. Right. While we're at it, let's not make fun of people who think... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. LOL.....good one. |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
69. I think that science bigots and Christian bigots should read some Derrida |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
256. That's some really cruel punishment you're proposing.... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. you can bitch about us when |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Do you believe people have rights? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. I Used to, But With Republicans in Power I'm not so sure any more |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. umm complete non sequitor |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. I don't know where Christianity comes into my question. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. I think you should know where I'm coming from first. |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
112. They have rights to believe whatever they want |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #112 |
136. I would agree with that. |
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Randers (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
135. The creationists don't know how good they have it... |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
74. Mathematical bigots can be just as annoying as religious bigots. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
212. as a pythagorean |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #74 |
240. Yarrrrr... we PI-rates |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. Agreed |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
170. Sorry, that is idiotic |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #170 |
191. OK |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. unfortunately, much of the problem stems not from any conflict... |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
164. I am just finishing a book called "The Science of God" |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #164 |
175. That is creationist nonsense. |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
77. Give me a scientific bigot any day.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. You can keep the science bigot. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
173. Science bigot = not a real thing |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
194. Exactly |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #194 |
214. you are creating a false dichotomy (eom) |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #214 |
244. Who is? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #194 |
262. Those actions you give are explainable as rational actions |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
78. There are science bigots here. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. you didn't read very closely.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I opened the door for you to give me scientific |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Apparently you didn't read the thread you said you read. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. Fascinating Link... |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. That'as so funny! |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Not a creationist. Can't help ya. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Cop out. You have nothing to contribute then, |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. We're spinning in circles here |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. Yea, I'm bored too |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #131 |
149. Once again I walk away disappointed. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
167. That is a Fundie Talking Point and You Know It |
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muse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #149 |
207. Misconception about the nature of science |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
210. One word - viruses. HIV is a good example of evolultion. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #210 |
217. Mutating virus is not evolution of species. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #217 |
276. You seem to think that "virus" is a species. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
126. Whether you find the site "biased" is irrelevant. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. You ignore the point that his defition of speices |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #128 |
138. OK, if you don't like that particular individual's definition... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #105 |
161. see my response below-- a selection of peer reviewed papers... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
216. "Chihuahuas and Great Danes can mate, but in general they don't" |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #216 |
218. You're reinforcing my point |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
275. You're being facetitious. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I'll give you an example of evolution - |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
110. Much better. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
156. ok, here's a bunch of relevent papers and citations.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #156 |
206. I never said that I found it threatening or offensive. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #206 |
223. polyploidy is the result of evolution.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:04 AM Response to Reply #223 |
238. We might have been talking past each other here. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #156 |
236. Thanks for you help. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. A shock of shockers! |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Lets turn it around. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Your request may be too complicated |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Agree |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #104 |
133. That right. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. If you were truly interested in discussion, |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #143 |
151. I can't find it. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. What was my point, anyway? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. Help me. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Are you serious? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 05:39 AM Response to Reply #160 |
246. Take a lump of clay, mold it into a man, |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #160 |
277. Find a human being in 3 billion year old strata. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #133 |
150. That sounds like a theory to me |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
114. I'm not a creationist, so I can't help you. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Okham's Razor |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. If you don't have the solution, you can't scrutinize |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #129 |
144. You are not my peer, don't even go there. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #144 |
163. Visit your library? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #163 |
177. Visit yours. It's called a Public Library for a reason. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #163 |
185. I have posted numerous citations to "help" you.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #185 |
208. I've started reading. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Here you go. Check it out when you have a spare month. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #107 |
122. Not what I'm looking for. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Ever heard of Google? |
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RFM (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. ever hear of Artificial Life? |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
145. not all of science is petri dishes and "controlled experiments" |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. Are you saying that there is no experiment |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #153 |
162. ***sigh**** |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #162 |
168. we use the laws of evolution in computer science |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. fascinating stuff. and welcome to DU |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. thanks |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #153 |
211. yes and succeeded, many times.... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #211 |
220. I've answer this elsewhere in the thread. |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #220 |
222. it is demonstrated in computer science |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #220 |
229. see # 223.... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #220 |
231. why animal preferably? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #122 |
178. ok, it happens all the time in plants-- breeders have taken... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #178 |
213. Polyploid induction |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #125 |
132. Welcome to DU |
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RFM (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. thanks greenohio |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:09 AM Response to Reply #78 |
250. Unbrilliant |
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HawkerHurricane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
115. Creationism and Fundamentalism... |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #115 |
197. Modern Fundementalism anyway |
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HawkerHurricane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:54 AM Response to Reply #197 |
253. Oh, of course |
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mom-mad-about-bush (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
117. No need to take sides. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #117 |
181. "creation could not have existed without evolution." Bullshit. |
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Hans Delbrook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
187. I respect your beliefs |
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muse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #117 |
198. Of COURSE teaching evolution excludes creationism. |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
119. Oh, Come On |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
141. yep |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
142. Both sides are wrong. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #142 |
158. yes bigotry stinks, but.... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #158 |
165. I wouldn't call it bigotry to disprove |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
154. Any religious belief deserves to be made fun of.- |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
157. Religion is mind control. Through |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. as opposed to what |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #159 |
169. there are more than just religious reasons to not eat your own species |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #169 |
184. Don't bring science into this, |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #169 |
228. yeah really |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #159 |
186. You should read a book called Cannibals and Kings by Marvin |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. hmmm....Harris has a lot of good points.... |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #189 |
196. I don't buy him totally either but he does offer some damned interesting |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #196 |
199. That wasn't the only reason for the taboo |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #199 |
235. Could be, but I don't think back in Biblical times Trichinosis was |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:46 AM Response to Reply #235 |
245. That's what I heard it was anyway |
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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
192. Why must people who don't blindly follow every evolution idea |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #192 |
201. look, I'm sorry, but you just keep spouting nonsense... |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
193. I have no problem with someone's religious beliefs |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
200. Why is it so hard to pull evolution and creation together? |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. there is no link between the 2 |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #202 |
215. What's more irrational? |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:29 PM Response to Reply #215 |
221. we didn't evolve from 'nothing' |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #221 |
225. I just look at it differently, and the same |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #225 |
234. but |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #215 |
232. why |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #202 |
241. Hmmmm. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #200 |
230. "Why is it so hard to think that a higher power created the universe. . ." |
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TheDon (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
204. Whatever... |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. witch? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:39 AM Response to Reply #204 |
242. Welcome to DU |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
219. Eh... |
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ilife (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #219 |
226. the CREATOR |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
247. BS |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
249. Um, No! |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:37 AM Response to Reply #249 |
257. age old problem, doc; knowlege versus certainty |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
254. excuse me, |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
258. Most Christians are able to grasp the Evolution concept. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
259. The majority of Germans were Hitler supporters .... |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
260. here is what science can offer |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
261. here is what religion can offer |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
263. We aren't bashing Christians... |
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Felix Mala (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
265. I know lots of Christians |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
267. evolution is simply the scientific explanation of how God created |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #267 |
270. yow |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
272. I have no problem with people believing whatever the hell they want to... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
273. Scientific bigots....hmmmm.... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #273 |
280. Definitions |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
274. I could give a shit if someone believes in creationism over evolution |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
279. I don't have a problem with creationism |
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