God I love Dean - comment today.

Paraphrasing here, so bare with me. Anyway Dean was on one of the whore news networks and they asked him about Kerry's emotional moment. They asked him if he'd break down and cry. His response? Only if they kick me in the shins tonight. :bounce:

Again, only a paraphrase, so yeah.

:D

is alive and well.

To some extent many successful campaigns incorporate a "cult of personality". Think Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton. There is nothing inherently wrong with personality or charisma or whatever you want to call it playing a strong role in a campaign. And the appeal factor shouldn't be underestimated. That doesn't mean that people who find someone charismatic aren't also thinking about issues.

... against "personality" when their candidate has none. No surprise here :)

Could you elaborate?

Don't know what it was over though.

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and welcome to DU :hi:

He cried while listening to a woman tell her story about being unemployed and now homeless. She baiscally told him what had happened to her over the last couple years and that Bush & Co. have done nothing. Kerry was very moved, as we all should be.

Sorry I do not have a link, but I'm guessing someone here does.

All though I'm big for Clark, that just raised my respect for Kerry immensely. If he gets the nomination, that kind of footage would be GOLD if you put it next to stuff with Bush talking to some corporate fat cats.

That is one of the most endearing things about a man, to get soft
hearted once in a while. It just shows John Kerrey is a very decent
human being.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

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Atleast youre honest about your affiliations though.

I will give you that.

I think he was asked if he was going to cry tonight (during the debate) and he said only if they kicked him in the shin. I could be wrong, but I don't think he was mocking Kerry.

found out a guy was homeless and took him to the SC Democratic fish fry as his personal guest and fed the guy. It's fine for Kerry to be weepy. It's also fine for Dean to do something to help instead.

Unlike Shrub, who would kick a homeless guy aside like a pesky puppy while heading to another fundraiser.

Eyes on the prize, people.

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Kick him in the teeth and he'll forget he was ever hungry." -- George W. Bush.

I wouldn't think of calling any of the candidates a low down name like that!

I haven't seen the piece or read a transcript, so all I have to go on is your description.

Nonetheless, it sounds to me like Dean turned aside a fairly tasteless question with humor. Doesn't sound like a lack of sensitivity to me.

I doubt there would be a transcript, being it was just a small bit, but I can search.

I read the story about Kerry and was quite moved myself. I know Dean was only joking, but Kerry was obviously moved by the woman's plight.

Dean wasn't mocking Kerry - only simply put that he'd cry tonight if he were kicked in the shins.

You say "Sure! What's wrong with compassion?" and then watch while the pundit stammers it's apology for heartlessness.

Dean is not allowed to make off the cuff jokes at the expense of himself!! In fact only Kerry can laugh, cry, joke, insult Gore, whatever.

I can't believe he cried over that. Do you know how many people have it that bad and worse?

Well with the suffering being caused by the Bush Administration, there's alot to cry about.

On Foxnews, it's always about taking it to Bush. He missed a perfect opportunity. And Kerry has missed a few as well. Beat Bush. That's the goal.

Where'd you get that "Dean Surges in SC..." headline from an article that has a headline of there being a four-way tie? The article also shows that Edwards is slightly ahead with 10% to Dean's 9% and Kerry's and Lieberman's 8%. Somehow you feel free to violate the rules of LBN by cobbling together yet another headline to convince us that Dean is, in fact, a Deity.

The subject of this thread just makes me dislike Dean even more. I LIKE the fact that Kerry can cry at something that touches him; it's human. Dean is showing himself to be just another tough guy from your description of the incident. I'd like to see it before commenting more.

Dean lectures us. He makes flat pronouncements that come from the perfunctory superiority of an arrogant physician of the upper class who is going to tell us what's best for us. His message is largely good, but his delivery is very off-putting.

You Deanies also have to adjust to your new reality as the legions of the front-runner: what was endearing loyalty and assuredness as underdogs can very easily come across as dominating, lockstep unilateralism when one is suddenly of the majority.

I hereby stop giving any helpful hints to your camp; any points of questioning are met with a fusillade of derision, and your guy doesn't need any help. Should he win the nomination, I will come back and seriously attempt to help correct the impression of serious character issues from his comportment.

deandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandean.

(Thought I'd just save you a few...)

And bring up...who was it? Mondale? who shed a tear on the campaign trail and his campaign ended that day. I'm not saying Kerry can't shed a tear, but you're ripping at Dean for something that isn't even a direct quote and he was answering about the OVERWHELMING TALKING POINT in the news that the other 8 are supposedly going to swipe at him since he is the frontrunner in the news. It was a joke. Remember, like the "joke" Kerry used a week ago when he skewered Gore with the internet thing.

I didn't start this thread or any like this, but if you hate Dean and hate subjects of threads where someone says how much they like him...why are you posting here?

Your bias against physicians is evident. That's your right, but you are projecting your personal problem with doctors onto the rest of us. Do you really for one second think that anybody running for President doesn't have a core of arrogance and quite an ego, just to actually take on the task??? Dean does not come off any more arrogant than Kerry to me. Kerry seems to have an arrogance about the war thing...I was there, no one else was; I know war. So what? Does that mean that a woman can't run for president in the US? Guess not, they don't know combat.

And as far as your condescending insults thrown my way (as a Dean supporter)...look at all the "positive" Kerry threads and tell me why they aren't seen as "dominating, lockstep unilateralism." In fact on their "positive" threads they almost always have to slam Dean.

I have never attacked you or anyone else regarding Dean. I'm just tired of being lumped in with a few over-zealous or maybe even assholish Dean supporters. Most of us aren't and don't appreciate you blaming "us" for your hatred of Dean.

That's made with sun-dried tomatoes and artichoke hearts, isn't it? Sounds yummy.

I replied to you in LBN - if you want to ignore my reply, whatever.

Screw you.

That hardly constitutes "ignoring you".

Having said that, I apologize. It's probably nothing nefarious on the part of the moderator, although he/she SHOULD verify headlines...

On the other hand, it's the stampede of the firebrand majority that is beginning to wear mighty thin.

Oh, and I usually prefer about an hour of foreplay before screwing, just in case you're interested.

Care to address that issue about the crying? I'd like to hear full context, because if he's just strutting to point out that he's just as manly as the next guy, he's losing even more points.

for Dean to make a joke too. Doesn't mean anybody is trashing or dissing anybody. Damn, I like them both.

I don't think less of Kerry now that he's cried. Just a nice joke on Dean's part.

Just don't know exactly what it is about Howard Dean, but I just love him. We don't agree on all things, but he's close enough for me to send my second contribution. It's a first for me to be involved in
any campaign.