Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Which is more harmful to a child? A rare swat to the rear, or TV?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:28 AM
Original message
Poll question: Which is more harmful to a child? A rare swat to the rear, or TV?
Which is more harmful to children?

A rare swat to the rear, or letting the TV be their babysitter several hours every day?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:29 AM
Response to Original message
1. bad choices . . . n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:32 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Maybe. Just putting it into perspective.
I think leaving kids in front of the TV all the time is unconscionable, but millions do it.

There are all kinds of things parents do to their kids that don't involve physical contact, but are really wrong, just the same. Running a child down verbally on a regular basis, telling then how worthless they are, is SO much worse than spanking, SO much more hurtful, IMO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:36 AM
Response to Original message
3. How about "neither" ...?
I think you may have some fire damage from the Incensed and Justified Anti-Spanker Brigade.

I, too, oppose hitting children, but the flame wars are just nuts. We'd be far better off discussing how to improve the lives of children instead of fighting over fanny rights.

--p!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:41 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Improving lives...
means getting parents to stop inducing physical pain to their children. The stuff I went through as a child was excessive and has caused a lot of problems into adulthood that I have only recently overcome with lots of therapy and time. Why put your kids through it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. Personally, I don't think spaking is constructive either.
But I think that many people blow it way out of proportion.

And I certainly think someone should be a parent actively involved in raising a child to pontificate on the subject.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:38 AM
Response to Original message
4. Both are wrong
and can do harm to a child.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 05:41 AM
Response to Original message
6. you quantify the tv, but not the "rare swat"
to some people, "rare" may mean "weekly", others, "yearly".

regardless, several hours of tv ignores which programs they are watching, and also ignores whether or not it is followed with proper discussion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #6
14. I felt the need to qualify.
Regular spankings are clearly counterproductive.

I can count the number of times I was spanked as a child on one hand. That's what I'm talking about.

And I was specifically talking about using TV as a babysitter. Sure, Sesame Street is better than Ninja Turtles, but hours of unsupervised viewing is a bad thing on a regular basis, no matter what.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:45 AM
Response to Original message
7. Being "Best Friend" Instead of "Parent" is More Damaging Than Either
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:03 AM
Response to Original message
8. Hmmm, which is worse?
Giving a child illegal drugs, or chaining them to a pole in the basement 1 hour a day?

If I pick an answer, it's implied consent for the other option.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #8
15. Nice.
And like my question, it's largely a rhetorical one.

Fortunately few parents treat their children as you describe.

There was a thread not long ago that said that any parent who EVER so much as laid a finger on their child was a MONSTER and should have their children taken away and be jailed.

Just trying to put it into perspective.

I believe River Phoenix was never spanked as a child, was raised vegetarian and pacifist, and he was dead at 24 of a heroin overdose.

There are many important facets to childrearing besides whether or not one employs corporal punishment. MANY of us survived a few spankings as a child and don't feel any worse off for it. Many were abused and are adamantly opposed to corporal punishment.

Then there are the freepers, who as kids were probably given major-league mind-fucks on a daily basis, and probably beat their own kids because the bible says it's okay.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. putting things into perspective
Isn't that what Rush Limbaugh tried to do with the "frat pranks" at Abu Ghraib?

It's eerily similar to Gonzales's justification of torture - so long as it doesn't involve permanent organ disfunction and it's done for a purpose other than the violence itself, it's all good.

Some people think a swat that leaves no marks is fine. Some people think being made to stand in an uncomfortable position while handcuffed for a couple hours is fine. Some think being made to wear underwear on your head for photos, or being made to strip for humiliating photos is fine. It's all good.

I'm just leery of anyone who tries to justify something by saying it's not so bad as other things they could be doing, I guess.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
9. This post, IMO, illustrates that parents need to get their priorities
straight.

Spanking/Not spanking your kids doesn't determine whether or not you are a good parent. There are a lot more things that go into parenting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. You Shouldn't Hit People Who Can't Hit You Back (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
11. False dichotomy
How about hug your child and read her a book?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:23 AM
Response to Original message
13. both are examples of negligent parenting
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC